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for the masses headline additional july

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying bist has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i need your help to get to the year

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listening to 1985 to flag with jimmy

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well well well good evening

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bespoke radio

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for the

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how you doing how you doing today is

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2021 195 days

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into the new year only 170 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west

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this is fade to black for kjccr the game

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a the planets i'm yours jimmy church

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what is cracking cassandra

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that's awesome it's awesome

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wow what what a week here on the show

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very excited

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last night was a barn burner i gotta say

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you know with uh lou and uh and danny

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i mean lou lou revealed some things

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and it was it was pretty cool about this

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this uap ufo ufo uap video so we had

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but i got you know danny was

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amazing danny sheehan last night

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and then he let he let go of uh

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of a little bit of a bomb last night

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the classified version section of the

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uap tf report is over 400 pages

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it was 78 and he said no it's 400.

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there's 144 uh okay so anyway

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that was interesting and i got a text uh

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everybody uh was listening and uh from

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interesting last night and and

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cameron here live from canada one of the

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in all of ufology's been researcher of

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nationally you know his his work is

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is second to none so tonight grant

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cameron is here

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and we're going to continue the deep

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dive into all of these subjects there is

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who is the subject of bud hopkins book

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for the film shoot and she's absolutely

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amazing so that's going down tomorrow

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night you're not going to want to miss

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and then thursday night live from

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culfart here whoo man what a

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our forbidden disclosure online

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with richard dolan linda milton howe lou

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billy carson and myself this is an

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surely it will be the event of the year

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tickets and info

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are available right now go over to

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got a banner right there you can click

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on it's all through

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social media you can go to nick or lou

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of course in my uh twitter feed

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and social media and facebook you got to

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get your tickets now

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that's it we've got uh today's tuesday

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and then the big event kicks off

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it's going to be amazing all right um

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uh christina gomez just just tweeted out

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she's live right now

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christina if you want some action she's

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i'm just giving you good advice i mean i

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do it after um because i would like to

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come and hang out too as well

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and invite everybody over there um

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christina she's amazing all right

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uh follow me on twitter at j church

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radio follow me right there

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at j church radio the sandbox is hashtag

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hello to everybody out there this is

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going to be a great show stand

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uh grant cameron will be with us at the

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this is crazy you ready a library book

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how's that possible how's that about you

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used to be able to check out books 300

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what and if you were late how did those

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late charges and what's going on what

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this is check this out the book has been

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that's right after 300 years with a note

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the book a 1704 edition of the faith and

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england man has found its way back to

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the cathedral the inner pages bear the

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lending library in sheffield church

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1709 and it's a cool looking book too

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incredible story all right this broke

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the eccentric professor you know with

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activist resigned from harvard

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of spiritual rot in a letter posted on

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check this out they say it can't be done

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earlier today british detectives seized

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now last month the police confiscated

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cryptocurrency and arrested a 39 year

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who tipped off police to the latest

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i'm just saying all right this uh story

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uh over the last few days it's pretty

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and cuba cuba's communist government

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special agents called the black

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berets sent them to the streets in the

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following a weekend of massive unrest

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confirmed videos broadcast on social

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media networks that showed the black

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peaceful protesters sending the elite

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with force cuban president miguel diaz

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appeared on national television to give

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to suppress the biggest protest in

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he branded the peaceful protests as

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provocations there you go let's get this

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happy birthday to harrison ford

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harrison ford is 79. uh rich

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uh richard uh dolan and i were talking

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about harrison ford last week

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a lot and uh i

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got to go back to apocalypse now

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harrison ford right

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and then american graffiti george lucas

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directed that film before star wars

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and then i think harrison was like

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installing bathrooms

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right in california took him away from

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and uh made him a star in star wars

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patrick stewart today

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i can't believe this patrick stewart is

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cheech marin is 75

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mark the animal mendoza of twisted

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sister today bass player

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is 65. director and journalist

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cameron crowe is 64. of course he wrote

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fast times at richmond high and

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almost famous and drummer bobby rock

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is 58 i think bobby's currently playing

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with leader ford

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and guitarist damon johnson is 57 played

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in the delta rebels and brother kane and

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then lizzy

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i was damon johnson's

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guitar tech that's right i

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toured with damon johnson back in

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the day and i last saw him in sherman

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oaks

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many years ago but wow happy birthday

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damon and happy birthday to

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the bloke from oz our dead guy's

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birthday today

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is danny lawkin 1943-19

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died at the age of 34. danny was an

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actor he was a dancer

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and he also appeared on stage in

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television and film he was best known

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for his role as

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barnaby tucker in the 1969 film

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hello dolly in august 1977

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danny was stabbed over 100 times by a

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man he met in a garden grove

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california bar in september 1978

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his killer was convicted of voluntary

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manslaughter

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and sentenced to only four years in

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prison

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incredible story happy birthday danny on

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this day in history

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otd 1985. i remember this like it was

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yesterday

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watch this in my bedroom

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in pasadena california live aid

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the live aid concert raises 127 million

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dollars for famine relief in africa

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the 16-hour super concert was globally

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linked by satellite to more than a

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billion viewers

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in 110 nations that was

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it was just an incredible incredible day

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kit kats the candy bar

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kit kats in japan are associated with

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the phrase

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kito katsu translated as

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you will surely win and thus

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a good luck charm for students

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who eat them the night before important

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exams and that

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is your fader fact tonight on the show

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very special guest

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excited about this grant cameron

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is here he's the best grant cameron what

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a great week we have right here on fade

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to black tonight it's grant cameron

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tomorrow night debbie cobble thursday

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night live

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from australia ross culfart

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so there you go great week on the show

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stand by grant will be with us here in a

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coffee

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that that set by queen at

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man just incredible look at freddy who

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posted this

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is that tri-scale or is that a retweet

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or is everybody posting the same

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gif of freddy oh man there's teach marin

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that's a great scene right there

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i'm blind yeah that's great you guys are

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what a great company and all of our

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all right all right well um

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oh man i got something to say

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i posted this quote

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where is the definitive ufo photograph

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where is the up close showing the rivets

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ufo image we have billions of cameras

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all over this planet and we still don't

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have

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the image with the amount of reported

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sightings that happen every single day

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et

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must be lined up bumper-to-bumper

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like the 405 freeway in los angeles

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during rush hour

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so where is the perfect

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now i could have posted this last week

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last month but i didn't

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i posted this in a ufo

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forum back in 1994.

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that's right 27

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need to think about that for a second

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this was written

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art bell was only one year in the coast

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to coast am

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think about that bob lazar

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bill cooper was on the rise and the

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alien autopsy

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but that's not what's so important here

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what is

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important is that well where is that

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definitive ufo image

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right the video

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have we seen it yet

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well no we have

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there have been rumors over the last 50

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years or so

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about different images film

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video that the us government has in

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their possession

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i've heard them all heard the stories

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heard the stories from those that have

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seen them

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i've heard the stories from those who

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have

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confiscated by g-men and

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men in black whatever heard these

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stories

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now there is the purported triangle

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over the ocean pick that has been talked

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about over the last year

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absolutely had bob mcguire on the show

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he says he's seen it tim mcmillan says

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it's elusive it's an enigma

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and now we have lou elizondo that's

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right

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he was on the show last night and he's

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talking about this 23-minute ufo video

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and i don't doubt that they both exist

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they probably do

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but there has to be much much more and

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hopefully

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but where

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is the one we're talking about military

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stuff

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united states government

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where is the one the one taken by a

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civilian

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the perfect image

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i don't get it to this very day

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i cannot believe that we didn't get a

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snapshot or a video

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of the beer can up at mount adams

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it was right there

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i i mean i still i i cannot believe it

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to this day

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right in front of us 15

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seconds 30 people

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it was perfect it was sharp

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it was visible it was defined

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it was huge it was crazy

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the real deal and the one

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shot that eluded us

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i don't get it i don't get it

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i'm asking for the picture i'm wondering

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where it's at

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that event happens we don't get a pick

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and it's burned it's burned

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into my eyeballs i i remember

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every second of that event

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and i'm so happy that i

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chose mentally at that moment

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to just take it all in

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i did i just took it all in i

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put out everything all the commotion

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going around me

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and i just looked at it from top to

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bottom

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and it's still here but

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didn't get a picture that would have

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been the game changer

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here we are in 2021 all the tech in the

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world

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right at our fingertips and we

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all of those corbel leaks it's total

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crap

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videos that were shot literally in the

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middle of a u.s navy exercise

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with the highest of high tech known on

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planet earth

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and they show nothing

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the one image that caught my attention

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naps

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blimp nobody cared about

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i still don't i'm i'm not sure why

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it's a great image that needs

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explanation

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but it it didn't move the meter at all

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i tried to talk about it i've tried to

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talk about it with many researchers

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but i guess they just didn't see what i

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saw so

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knapp's blimp is kind of lost to history

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in the ether

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it's gone i don't get it

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so here i am 26 years later

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still complaining about the same thing

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and i'll probably be doing it ten years

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from now too

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you see i've been watching the drama

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from the side of the stage

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for a few years now the fighting the

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soap opera

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those who think that they've got it all

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figured out

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they still don't get it they thought

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that

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after reading about tom delong and ttsa

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that the ufo thing would be revealed in

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a couple of weeks

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or a month or two and it would all be

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something fun with instant gratification

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well

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that didn't happen what did happen

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was something that we in the world of

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ufology have been waiting patiently

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for for well for decades

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many decades which is

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for the first time is that the subject

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is actually being taken seriously

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right without that picture

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without that film without that

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we will see the hopefully

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the the now famous 23 minute ufo video

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you know i certainly hope that we do i

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really do

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but i've waited this long and i can hang

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out for a while

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00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,279
longer right now at this point it's no

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big deal

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for everyone else who jumped on the

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bandwagon back in december 2017

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i would suggest some reading some study

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and research and you should start with

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above top secret by timothy good

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00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,360
still one of the top bestest books ever

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00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:24,960
written on the subject

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00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:28,840
it's thick it's comprehensive it's

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complete and it's required

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00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:35,919
it was also written 35

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years ago in 1987 before

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00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:43,520
most of you ufo newbies were born

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00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,430
think about that before you want to

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00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:51,520
start some drama with me

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00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,440
on social media that's right

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this is fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church

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tonight very special guest grant cameron

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is here

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00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:04,559
tomorrow night you're not going to want

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to miss this debbie cobble joins us for

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the first time

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and then thursday night it's ross

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culthart

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live all the way from australia

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yeah i'm your host jimmy church this is

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fade to black and the game changer

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network

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00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:23,600
and kg r a the planet i'll be right back

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after this short break with our guest

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[Music]

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so

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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know who and you're listening to fade to

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[Music]

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matthews

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight the

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one and only grant cameron joins us

685
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,200
tomorrow night debbie cobble is here she

686
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:39,679
was the subject of bud hopkins book

687
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:42,240
intruders that's tomorrow night thursday

688
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,839
night it's ross culfart

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00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,320
live from australia but tonight it's all

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00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,399
about grant that's right

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00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:50,480
we're gonna we're gonna do what grant

692
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:52,000
and i always do we're gonna talk about

693
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:53,679
all of the latest news in our ufo

694
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,720
community

695
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,560
including and i haven't heard from grant

696
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,760
yet about this the uap task force report

697
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:02,000
and his take on the recent leaked videos

698
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:03,440
that have circulated throughout

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00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:04,480
mainstream media

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00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:07,520
all that and much more grant has been a

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00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,280
researcher since 1975 charlie red star

702
00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:13,359
and was recognized as both the leads

703
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,119
conference international researcher of

704
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:17,119
the year and the ufo congress researcher

705
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:17,920
of the year

706
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,320
he is a world-renowned expert on ufos

707
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,320
conspiracies government cover-ups and

708
00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:23,920
has spent decades watching and

709
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,720
chronicling developments around the

710
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,240
extraterrestrial contact subject

711
00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:30,960
he is the author of charlie redstar his

712
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,680
website is right there over at

713
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:34,000
jimmychurchradio.com

714
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,440
and i would like to welcome back to fade

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00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:37,440
to black grant cameron

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00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,800
grant how you doing man jimmy church

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00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,240
thanks for having me and thanks for your

718
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:43,680
interest always in what i'm doing

719
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,680
yeah you know you know grant i have you

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00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,280
know what's what's strange with

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00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:48,960
with everything that has been going down

722
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:50,960
lately you and i

723
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,880
haven't had a chance to talk which is

724
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:54,400
which is kind of strange

725
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:58,000
it's uh it's been a pretty uh pretty fun

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00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,920
ride over the last few months since you

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00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:01,359
were last on with us

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00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:04,560
and and i i've got to get an update in

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00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:07,839
in the world of uh grant cameron and uh

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00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:11,280
also i do want to mention uh we

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00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:13,280
finally i think grant and i are going to

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00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,640
be hanging out at a couple of

733
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:15,920
conferences

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00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:18,880
uh that are coming up hopefully canada

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00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:19,520
will let

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00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,430
and uh and that's uh the conscious life

737
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:27,520
expo uh coming up in september and then

738
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:28,800
right after that

739
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:31,280
in laughlin nevada star works with paula

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00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,880
harris and i'll see you there too as

741
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,240
well so we're gonna do back-to-back

742
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:36,000
conferences together i'm looking forward

743
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,800
to it

744
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:38,960
beautiful yeah we got the uh the covet

745
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:40,800
thing that you need a test to go across

746
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:43,280
the americans need a test to go in

747
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,119
then you have to have a test three days

748
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,880
before you come back

749
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:48,160
which means you fly there and you have

750
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:49,359
to immediately go for another test

751
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,640
because you're usually flying back

752
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:52,000
within three days

753
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:53,520
and then when you get back here then you

754
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:55,119
need another test once you get here so

755
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:55,680
it's

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00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,920
by the end of the month because we're

757
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,520
i think we're about to have more people

758
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:03,520
vaccinated in the united states in terms

759
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,640
of percentage so

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00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:06,400
it may change that's why i said hold off

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00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:08,160
for another couple of weeks and we'll

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00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,359
see

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00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:11,359
what's what goes down but it'll be it'll

764
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,880
be exciting to uh

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00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,440
to get together i think uh with uh with

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00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,800
you you same thing

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00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,480
that there really has been no

768
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:20,320
conferences and for a lot of people in

769
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:21,839
the ufo community

770
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,800
that is what it's all about it's it's um

771
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,160
because a lot of people what you'll find

772
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:28,320
is especially experiencers their

773
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,839
family really couldn't care that's what

774
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,920
they do they're ostracized they'll

775
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,119
always come to me and say

776
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:35,280
oh my husband and wife my kids won't

777
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,480
talk to me or whatever and i said get

778
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:38,160
used to it that's exactly the

779
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,640
way it's supposed to be and so a lot of

780
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:42,160
people who go to experiences that's

781
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:43,119
their family

782
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,400
especially when you see i don't know if

783
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:46,240
you how many times you've been to the

784
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,640
big

785
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,240
congress is one to start it where they

786
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:50,640
had the um the experiences in the back

787
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:51,440
room

788
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:52,400
and they were they were always

789
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:54,000
complaining and they said oh this is

790
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:54,560
terrible

791
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,680
they don't care about us we're in the

792
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:57,040
back room and they would have it at 8 30

793
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:57,680
in the morning

794
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:58,720
right because the first lecture would be

795
00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:00,079
at 9 30 and they didn't they didn't

796
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:01,200
nobody wanted to

797
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,400
see these people coming in so they'd

798
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,480
have it before anything has started

799
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,839
so they could get back out and they said

800
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,440
they don't care about us and that's what

801
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:08,640
i said to them

802
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,880
um you got to realize that you're in the

803
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:12,320
super bowl of all stories man

804
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:13,680
you're what it's about you're the people

805
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:15,280
that are experiencing and talking to the

806
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:16,240
intelligence stuff

807
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:17,280
they all sort of sat up straight in

808
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,880
their chairs and went yeah yeah they

809
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,000
sort of realized that

810
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,920
you know they were complaining and but

811
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,040
what you see there is

812
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,720
is the first couple of years they had

813
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,240
you know 20 or 30 people

814
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:27,920
and then i remember the last time i was

815
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:30,000
there uh they were in the back room and

816
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,200
then i went and i said

817
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:33,280
i'm going in they said it's full and i

818
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:35,280
said well you know can can i just stand

819
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:36,240
in the back and they said well there's

820
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:37,040
two rooms full

821
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,240
and there was there was actually like

822
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:40,079
150 people the last one

823
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,920
and that was a number of years ago and

824
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,599
these people and they're crying it's the

825
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,520
first time they've ever told their story

826
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:47,440
and you know they they come there and

827
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:48,480
finally they can tell their story

828
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:49,839
nobody's gonna laugh at them

829
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,920
and you see that very powerful um family

830
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:55,599
atmosphere of people who haven't seen

831
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:57,280
each other and there's all this hugging

832
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,079
and stuff that

833
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:00,960
um this is sort of like our family where

834
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:02,720
we go in there and we

835
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:03,839
people think we're exchanging

836
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,720
photographs of um ufos and stuff like

837
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,320
that and usually it sort of comes down

838
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,160
to these philosophical discussions

839
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:12,000
how does the world work is there a god i

840
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:14,000
mean what's really going on here you

841
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,720
know and

842
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:17,280
it i think it's very exciting to to be

843
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:18,560
at these conferences people don't

844
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,200
realize

845
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:22,320
uh once you go there uh it can be pretty

846
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,200
addicting

847
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:25,200
in terms of knowing people from all

848
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,480
around the world people would

849
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,480
even make complaint here they'd say you

850
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:30,000
don't have any friends and i'd say

851
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:32,160
i don't have any friends i may not have

852
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:33,520
any friends around here

853
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,800
but let me tell you i can go to any

854
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:36,240
state in the united states almost any

855
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:37,040
country

856
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:40,240
in the world and i can i can know a

857
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:41,599
number of people who will help me out if

858
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,640
i get in trouble

859
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:44,400
and that's what we we have we have this

860
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,920
worldwide community that

861
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:47,680
that we know people all over the place

862
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,240
and uh we have this communion

863
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,160
in terms of that's what willie strieber

864
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,760
is told when when he wanted to called it

865
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,200
body pain he wanted to call

866
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:57,280
the book body pain and then his wife was

867
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:58,320
channeling in the middle of night she

868
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:58,800
said

869
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,800
no it won't be called body pain it

870
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:02,160
should be called communion

871
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,599
because that's what it is and that's

872
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,680
what it is it's like this communion

873
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,280
that we have that we meet with each

874
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:08,960
other and we're on the same wavelength

875
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:10,160
and we figure we're doing something

876
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,040
valuable

877
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:13,280
and we're uh yeah to me it's always

878
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,640
we're in the super bowl of all stories

879
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:16,160
if you understand what's actually going

880
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:17,280
on

881
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:19,200
we are playing in the super bowl bowl of

882
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:20,880
all stories we're in the stadium we're

883
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:21,839
playing the game

884
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,520
people should realize that and then when

885
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:25,359
you go to these conferences you realize

886
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:26,400
these are the people that are in the

887
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:29,040
game with you and maybe if reincarnation

888
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,560
is a fact we all came into the world to

889
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:31,920
change the world and we're all working

890
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,720
together

891
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,480
to raise consciousness or do whatever

892
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:36,319
we're doing you know

893
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:38,960
uh it's it's really funny that you bring

894
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,680
up uh

895
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,599
the title of communion whitley told me

896
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:43,040
the story

897
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,800
uh last week and i hadn't really heard

898
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:46,800
it directly from him

899
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:49,440
but communion would not have been the

900
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:52,319
same book if it was another title yeah

901
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:54,880
and i i i'm being very serious about

902
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:55,920
that

903
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,920
is it comes to attitude

904
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,920
like uh anne had a different attitude

905
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,200
than whitley because whitley had that

906
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:04,640
very traumatic start

907
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,319
which i think with a lot of experiences

908
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,760
that's what you see the very first

909
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,960
experience they have is very very

910
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,920
traumatic

911
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,240
uh they're they're in fear and then once

912
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,839
they get regressed once they get going

913
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:15,359
it's almost like they become the messiah

914
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:16,400
you can't shut them up i mean

915
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:17,359
suddenly they're running around the

916
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,880
world and they they figure they get this

917
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,079
message for the world

918
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:22,720
but that that is the whole deal or the

919
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:23,920
other thing that she brought up was very

920
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,960
important was the communion and the

921
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,160
other one was

922
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:28,560
this aspect where they got 200 000

923
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:29,200
letters

924
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:30,640
after that book went out and i've talked

925
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:31,839
to a lot of people you probably have as

926
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,480
well

927
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,240
when you mention the book communion they

928
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:35,920
say i remember the one woman

929
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,480
said to me i was walking in a mall and

930
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:40,400
it was in the front window

931
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:43,359
on a stand and when i saw the the the

932
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,720
photograph on the front cover i just

933
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:46,240
about dropped my kid

934
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,920
and then you see this if you go to

935
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,920
communion to the amazon you'll see all

936
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:51,040
these people making comments

937
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,319
the same sort of comments when i saw

938
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,560
that photograph i knew

939
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:56,560
that i was involved in this i i it

940
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:58,000
triggered something it was

941
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,280
it was almost like they put it on the

942
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,359
cover i know that the title

943
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,839
was was given to them and i even think

944
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:05,440
that the idea of putting that

945
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:08,800
that um alien on the front cover

946
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:11,119
was a triggering event where all sorts

947
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:12,240
of people were triggered

948
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,440
and so they got these two hundred

949
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,359
thousand letters that came from

950
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,520
people all around the world and anne

951
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:18,720
hired this uh

952
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,079
secretary to put all these things

953
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:22,319
together and that's when she came out

954
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:24,160
and made this new revelation where she

955
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:25,359
said whitley

956
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:26,880
whatever we're dealing with it has

957
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:28,720
something to do with death and that's

958
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:30,319
when you see this whole deal how many

959
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,280
people see

960
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,680
dead people on board ships and the

961
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,440
aliens seem to have some sort of

962
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,520
interaction with that world almost like

963
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,599
they're coming from the same world

964
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,520
of uh dead people and i'll give you an

965
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:43,280
example i i don't know if you've ever

966
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,599
heard

967
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:46,079
ron johnson he's a a big experiencer out

968
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,800
of uh

969
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:49,440
utah he's documented 600 pages of his

970
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,000
encounters since the 1960s

971
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:54,560
and he talks about the fact that um alby

972
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:56,960
who's the being that he deals with

973
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:58,319
actually took him in the spirit world

974
00:43:01,430 --> 00:43:00,319
three times and the first time it was

975
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,440
sort of a lower level

976
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:03,280
dark nothing really happening in there

977
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,880
second time he was with his mother but

978
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,240
he couldn't see his mother his mother

979
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,640
had died and the third one he tells the

980
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:09,839
story where

981
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:12,079
lb takes him into the spirit world and

982
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:13,119
he's with his mother and can actually

983
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:14,640
see his mother and he says

984
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,400
she's taking me around taking me uh

985
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,240
through a tour of the spirit world

986
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:20,000
and lb has taken him in there elby's

987
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:21,280
there but ellie's not in

988
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:23,920
interfering or whatever and so she takes

989
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,560
them and

990
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,240
she says he says there's this little

991
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:28,079
tiny like he's a mormon guy so he says

992
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,280
there's this little thing that looks

993
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:30,720
like a temple out of nephi

994
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:33,440
utah and he says my mother takes me to

995
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,000
this

996
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:37,280
you die you're going to have a

997
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,880
room in this building and he said i

998
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:40,400
walked inside the building and it was

999
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,880
like

1000
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:42,880
10 or 100 times bigger on the inside as

1001
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,000
it was outside and i said

1002
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,920
hey that's exactly what chris busso said

1003
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:47,280
yeah that's exactly what terry lovely

1004
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,319
said about the ufo

1005
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,319
yep is is that it's the terry lovelace

1006
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:52,160
said it was like a regular size ufo when

1007
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:53,440
he went inside was the football

1008
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,280
size of a football stadium inside there

1009
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,800
and so i'm thinking wow this is

1010
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,640
this is is the guy having a near-death

1011
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:00,960
experience or is he having an abduction

1012
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,520
experience

1013
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,800
because it was like a sort of like an

1014
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,720
abduction experience but and then the

1015
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:06,240
other thing that he mentioned which was

1016
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,880
kind of

1017
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:09,680
weird was when he was in this building

1018
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,880
she's showing him around this building

1019
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:12,400
and then she says we sort of

1020
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:14,079
levitate we sort of hover down to the

1021
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,599
other side of the building and at the

1022
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,880
far end of the building there's this

1023
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:18,720
table that has these crystals on the

1024
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:19,280
table

1025
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,800
and these crystals are coming out of the

1026
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,640
table now i had written

1027
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,480
read dr michael newton who did the

1028
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,400
research on life between life he did the

1029
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,160
7 000 regressions where he's talking

1030
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:29,920
about people in between lives

1031
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,960
and how they they um do research

1032
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:34,319
for their next life and they they have

1033
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,920
these big books and they open up the

1034
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:37,599
book and there's this crystal inside the

1035
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:38,079
book

1036
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:39,280
and they look at the crystal at a

1037
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,960
certain angle and they can see their

1038
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:42,160
past lives and they can plan their

1039
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,359
future lives whatever so

1040
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,880
ron says these crystals i said there's

1041
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:46,400
crystals coming out of the table he said

1042
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,680
yeah and you look at it at a certain

1043
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:49,280
angle and you look in there and you can

1044
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:49,760
see

1045
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:52,000
your whole life and his mother said you

1046
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,119
haven't got a crystal yet

1047
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:55,280
the crystal won't appear until you die

1048
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,800
and then you can you can see

1049
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:58,640
your all the events of your life when

1050
00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,400
you look in this crystal and he saw his

1051
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,000
dog's crystal so he pulled

1052
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,520
he got the dog's crystal and he looked

1053
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:05,200
at it he said i never knew how my dog

1054
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:06,000
disappeared

1055
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,520
he said but when i looked at the crystal

1056
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:08,960
i could see that my neighbor shot the

1057
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,599
dog

1058
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:11,520
and then you go to richard doty if you

1059
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,960
go the i always believe that the

1060
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,240
government is dropping this stuff

1061
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:16,400
inside ufo documentaries so if you look

1062
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:17,520
at the uh

1063
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,920
documentary um ufo cover-up live 1988

1064
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:23,119
everybody said there was this terrible

1065
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:24,240
cover it was terrible

1066
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,520
documentary they were it was all

1067
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:27,200
scripted they had this bizarre music

1068
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,760
whatever

1069
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,440
richard dodie is playing the backlit

1070
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:31,520
falcon and in there you see the

1071
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:34,240
the documentary he says the most amazing

1072
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:35,920
thing i saw the entire time i was

1073
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,400
working

1074
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,480
is the aliens had this crystal and they

1075
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:40,160
showed the crystal and you could see

1076
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,680
things that could show the crucifixion

1077
00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:43,680
of jesus they could show everything from

1078
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:44,720
the past by

1079
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,079
taking this crystal and you look at the

1080
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:47,520
crystal at a certain angle and that's

1081
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,800
when you start to see all this stuff

1082
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:49,760
line up and you're going

1083
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,760
hey this stuff's all connected all these

1084
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:53,280
people are telling these stories

1085
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:54,880
but they're all connected when you look

1086
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:57,680
at them and so this aspect of

1087
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,680
what i say is all a paranormal phenomena

1088
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:01,040
even like you probably

1089
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,960
interviewed ray hernandez number times

1090
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,319
where he was taken out of

1091
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:06,640
his body when he was in on the on the

1092
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,880
miami freeway

1093
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:10,400
brought up and was shown this thing

1094
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,839
about the contact modalities which i

1095
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:12,800
wrote a book on

1096
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,319
and that was the idea that it's all the

1097
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:16,560
same thing it's paranormal phenomena

1098
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:19,359
psychic phenomena remote viewing

1099
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,119
death you know ufos quantum physics

1100
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,440
and it's all the same thing quit parsing

1101
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:26,880
this stuff and in the middle the

1102
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,000
connection is consciousness

1103
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:30,480
so that's where you see all these

1104
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,760
different things that

1105
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,440
uh interest me sort of more than the

1106
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:35,440
ufos is the idea that

1107
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:38,800
the ufo is an anomaly and i i've had the

1108
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:39,200
lumber

1109
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,240
as you probably know i've had a number

1110
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:42,240
of noetic download experiences where

1111
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:43,359
they basically

1112
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:46,240
uh told me this thing about you've got

1113
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,520
all the wrong blocks you think you've

1114
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,960
got the right blocks

1115
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:50,240
all your blocks are wrong in fact

1116
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:51,680
everything you believe it's exactly the

1117
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,800
opposite of what you believe

1118
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:54,160
you think you understand what's going on

1119
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:55,520
you have no clue what's going on and the

1120
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,560
worst part about it

1121
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:58,160
is you're so stupid you don't understand

1122
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,520
you don't know what's going on and you

1123
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:00,880
think you know what's going on

1124
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,599
and so it's this whole idea that it's

1125
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:05,440
this uh very complex

1126
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:08,400
sort of world that is all may have a

1127
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:09,440
consciousness

1128
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:12,720
uh bottom to it and that the anomaly

1129
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:13,280
says

1130
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,920
so if you have a weird phenomena it's

1131
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,839
basically just saying to you

1132
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,839
one of your blocks is wrong you used to

1133
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:21,280
believe the world was flat you found it

1134
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:23,040
wasn't flat you used to believe your

1135
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,400
the earth the sun went around the earth

1136
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:26,400
that block was wrong and you've got some

1137
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,760
wrong blocks because if

1138
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:30,000
if this stuff was if you had all the

1139
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:30,800
right blocks

1140
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,240
there would be no anomalies so that's

1141
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:34,559
why ufos and all paranormal phenomena

1142
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,599
are so important

1143
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:38,079
they're telling us something is wrong

1144
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:39,680
with the way you're seeing the world and

1145
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,559
once you figure out

1146
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,559
the anomaly then you'll understand

1147
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,559
better how reality works and you'll

1148
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:46,079
you'll be able to move along

1149
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:49,760
yeah physics and and and the woo-woo

1150
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:52,800
are on a crash course grant they're

1151
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:53,200
gonna

1152
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:58,880
a rude awakening

1153
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,920
and i i always look forward to it they

1154
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:03,520
talked about the religious thing i said

1155
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,720
the guys are gonna be fighting for the

1156
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:06,640
cyanide pills or the guys that paid 45

1157
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,040
000

1158
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,960
to go mit and suddenly realized

1159
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:10,319
everything they basically everything

1160
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:11,280
they believed is

1161
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:13,599
is basically uh not the way they thought

1162
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,480
it was and

1163
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,559
and that's the that's the key i mean one

1164
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:18,000
of the things they gave me

1165
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:20,079
sort of like noetically is two lines

1166
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:21,359
very important lines and they keep

1167
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,559
repeating these

1168
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,880
one was albert einstein albert einstein

1169
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,480
you said you cannot

1170
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,480
solve a problem using the same

1171
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:30,079
information that you used to create the

1172
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,880
problem

1173
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:33,119
and um the the head of american

1174
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:34,319
psychology that

1175
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,040
uh william james who started uh the

1176
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:39,119
psychology in the united states said

1177
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,960
you think you're thinking you're just

1178
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,040
actually rearranging your prejudices

1179
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,960
and that's where we have to realize that

1180
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:47,280
uh skeptics are basically i believe

1181
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,079
skeptics

1182
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:50,079
skepticism is just left brain

1183
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,599
interpreter if you understand the right

1184
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,280
brain left brain experiments they did

1185
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,200
uh this idea that it has to fill in the

1186
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,760
hole when when something happens and

1187
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,359
and someone sees that there's a an

1188
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,119
actual part in the left brain

1189
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,599
that is there to fill the hole it

1190
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,359
immediately makes up garbage and it's

1191
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,520
always wrong according to the research

1192
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:10,160
and and and when it's confronted that

1193
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,440
it's wrong

1194
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:14,000
um and they did these do these split

1195
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:15,119
experiments with

1196
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:17,359
with people uh that showed this when

1197
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:18,640
when they were shown that they were

1198
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,440
wrong

1199
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:22,079
that um they showed them exactly how it

1200
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:23,280
worked how they were

1201
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,400
forced to pick up something with their

1202
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,160
left hand or whatever it was uh the

1203
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,680
person would get very upset

1204
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,520
and then very angry and that basically

1205
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,040
describes a skeptic so

1206
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:33,520
the that's the thing i think the the the

1207
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:34,079
the

1208
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:40,480
people i think are going to be in

1209
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,359
trouble i think

1210
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:44,240
the ufo thing i started in 75 i'm not

1211
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:45,440
sure exactly when you started probably

1212
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,400
at the same time

1213
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:48,640
but back then we were sort of the the

1214
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:49,520
oddballs

1215
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,119
and basically what it's going to come

1216
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:52,960
down to jimmy is we were right about

1217
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,760
everything

1218
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,119
all the stuff that we believed is going

1219
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:57,200
to be end up right and the the weird

1220
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,319
stuff that we still

1221
00:50:01,430 --> 00:50:00,400
are now being laughed at that's going to

1222
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,440
end up being right too

1223
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,880
that it's all going to be the people are

1224
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:04,880
reporting exactly what their experiences

1225
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:05,440
were

1226
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,800
and that's why you have to listen to the

1227
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:09,200
experiencers i think opposed to

1228
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,720
watching lights in the sky because

1229
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:12,160
lights in the sky will tell you yeah

1230
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:13,520
there's something going on and it isn't

1231
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,400
us

1232
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:16,079
uh but it's not until you talk to the

1233
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,359
experiences who are having these very

1234
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:19,200
bizarre experiences and interactions

1235
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:20,480
that you start to understand what's

1236
00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:25,119
going on it's actually very simple grant

1237
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,880
the the quantum physicists the

1238
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:29,040
astrophysicists

1239
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:32,400
the theoretical physicists want us

1240
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:35,520
to digest their research

1241
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:38,480
into the multiverse into parallel worlds

1242
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:39,680
into time travel

1243
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:43,920
into entanglement uh uh 11 dimensions

1244
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:46,960
right they want if if all of that

1245
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,680
is true all of their algorithms all of

1246
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:50,960
their math

1247
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:54,240
then everything else comes into play

1248
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:57,359
all of it it's all it's all connected

1249
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,240
and it's fascinating to me the ufo world

1250
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,240
there's no doubt a quantum physics right

1251
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:04,559
tobacco it was it was a crazy idea but

1252
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,680
then you start to see

1253
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:07,760
the more it goes along that we become

1254
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,079
validated more and more as it goes along

1255
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:11,920
with all the bizarre quantum physics

1256
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:13,359
things that shouldn't be happening it's

1257
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,079
the same thing

1258
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,319
it's the anomaly you've got to say why

1259
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:18,319
why is the dual slit experiment why is

1260
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,520
the observer when

1261
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,599
when the thing breaks down when there's

1262
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,200
an observer all this kind of stuff

1263
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:26,000
and that's the the whole thing with um

1264
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,520
you know with the

1265
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:29,359
the universe is this idea of the

1266
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:30,800
observer effect that

1267
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:33,040
uh it may not be the physical world we

1268
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,640
think it is because if it's a physical

1269
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,000
world we think it is they can't

1270
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:38,960
get here from there it's impossible and

1271
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,440
so

1272
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:41,680
it's either it's not happening or it is

1273
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:43,280
happening and we've got totally messed

1274
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:43,599
up

1275
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,520
as to how it works but quantum physics

1276
00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:47,440
is starting to support what what we're

1277
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,160
saying

1278
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:50,240
and you that's what people may not

1279
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,359
realize is when you have

1280
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,720
ufo lectures that people are talking

1281
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:54,319
about quantum physics because they're

1282
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:56,000
using it to say hey you know we were

1283
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:57,119
right all along

1284
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:59,920
so i think we're we're moving along and

1285
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:00,640
and yet

1286
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,520
even if we don't figure it out um we're

1287
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:05,520
still in a situation where

1288
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:07,040
uh we're moving along and it's the

1289
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:08,800
journey not so much the destination

1290
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:09,200
because

1291
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:11,280
people always i i get frustrated with

1292
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:13,119
the uh the disclosure thing especially

1293
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,559
the ufo disclosure thing

1294
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:16,079
because now we're on this thing about oh

1295
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,599
is the government going to announce

1296
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,960
disclosure and it's like

1297
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:21,119
no i mean if you've had an experience i

1298
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:22,400
had the experience in 75

1299
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,680
where it's right in front of the car so

1300
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:25,680
i've never ever gotten gone down the

1301
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,319
road of

1302
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,000
i got to prove ufos existed people i

1303
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,079
could care less i know what's going on

1304
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,880
and so you have this situation where

1305
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:34,079
they're saying we we need to

1306
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:35,599
get the government to confirm that ufos

1307
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:37,440
exist and i'm going no no no like

1308
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:38,960
this is 47 years i don't want to go back

1309
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:40,880
to grade 1 for the 47th time

1310
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:43,440
no let's get beyond the ufos exist and

1311
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,800
let's get to the next step

1312
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,559
as to why they're here what's going on

1313
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:48,240
what does it mean and

1314
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:49,839
i think we're still sort of stalled in

1315
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:51,520
this position of of

1316
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,359
uh you know trying to get somebody to

1317
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,800
confirm it so we can go to our

1318
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,800
our friend or neighbor or a parent or

1319
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:59,119
whatever and say i told you i was right

1320
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:00,720
and and that's what i think people are

1321
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:02,880
are waiting for big brother to

1322
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:06,240
sort of validate to them when um

1323
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:07,119
i don't think it's really going to

1324
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:08,640
change in fact i was given a message

1325
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:09,359
where they said

1326
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,480
so what's going to happen if you get

1327
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:12,480
disclosure are y'all going back to

1328
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:13,200
church

1329
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:14,880
and and that's true like what do you do

1330
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:16,240
if suddenly the government stands up and

1331
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:16,800
says

1332
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:19,599
okay it's real there's uh intelligence

1333
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,240
here

1334
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,800
uh whatever they say i mean what do you

1335
00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:24,240
do next day you got to go to work

1336
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,359
i don't think anything's going to change

1337
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:27,359
the same as in 2017. remember

1338
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,599
we always thought back in the old day

1339
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,359
that that the world was going to sort of

1340
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:33,200
blow up the stephen gruyere's to say oh

1341
00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:34,800
the stock market will melt down

1342
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:36,319
and people will figure oh that all the

1343
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:38,079
religions will collapse and people will

1344
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,680
be jumping out of windows and stuff like

1345
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:41,359
that if they find out that

1346
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,880
the government's got a ufo program and

1347
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,559
this is for real and what happened when

1348
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:46,079
they did it everybody went

1349
00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:47,920
yeah i knew that already god get on to

1350
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:50,079
the next thing it nobody even reacted

1351
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,839
when the new york times did that story

1352
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:53,440
because people have been acclimatized i

1353
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:55,280
think we're now moving to the next stage

1354
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:56,559
of acclimatization

1355
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:59,359
that there's actually this is real and

1356
00:54:01,829 --> 00:54:00,079
people want

1357
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:01,839
further answers i don't think people are

1358
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:03,040
going to be really shocked i think it's

1359
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:04,160
the secular guys

1360
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:07,680
who have stood their ground to every end

1361
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,240
to say this is swamp gas gases whatever

1362
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:11,760
they're still doing a job where they're

1363
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:13,920
still in a position where they can deny

1364
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,480
it

1365
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,400
but those are the guys i think they're

1366
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,040
going to be in the worst position

1367
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,640
probably they'll find some way to walk

1368
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,480
their way out of it but

1369
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:24,160
you can't really convince them i i

1370
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:25,440
always tell the story where i've i've

1371
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:27,119
worked on stanton freeman's files

1372
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,319
and it went there and i always make the

1373
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,559
point that we think that we need to show

1374
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,920
this because we need to prove to people

1375
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,119
that this is for real

1376
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:35,040
and that's not the point because stanton

1377
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,599
friedman spent 61 years doing ufos

1378
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:39,599
and if you take a look at what he did he

1379
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:41,599
argued with phil class he argued with

1380
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:45,040
menzel and randy and and uh all these

1381
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:45,599
guys

1382
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:48,640
uh carl sagan and stuff like that and

1383
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:49,599
who did he convince

1384
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,280
he didn't convince anybody of anything i

1385
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,760
mean basically he would say oh we uh we

1386
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:56,160
lectured at oxford and 78 percent of the

1387
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,680
people believe i won the debate

1388
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,920
but in terms of did change phil class's

1389
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,920
mind no people have this set thing

1390
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,599
that's this idea of the left brain

1391
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:05,440
interpreter that once somebody sticks

1392
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,200
something in there that's what they said

1393
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:08,960
once they put this garbage in there and

1394
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,799
it's always wrong to fill in the hole

1395
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,720
when there's an anomaly it's anomaly and

1396
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,000
there's a hole in the wall

1397
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:16,400
and the left brain wants things normal

1398
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:17,359
it's like no no no

1399
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:18,559
what are you talking about there's

1400
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:20,559
aliens and stuff and it immediately says

1401
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:21,119
oh it's a

1402
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,880
it's this or it's that and then that's

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00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:24,559
when they said it does not change its

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00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:25,359
mind it will

1405
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:27,119
never change its mind and that's why

1406
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:28,799
skeptics you can see these skeptics go

1407
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,680
their whole life

1408
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,440
and you can never ever they'll just it's

1409
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:33,599
like i'm a good thinker on my feet but

1410
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:34,960
basically what they're using is left

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00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:35,440
brain

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00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:37,200
that i can come up with 40 alternate

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00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,559
explanations to what you do

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00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,319
and if you answer this i've got another

1415
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,760
explanation that's left brain

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00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:43,280
interpreter it's a part of the left

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00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,000
brain

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00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:46,240
that that has actually been studied and

1419
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,319
that's where skepticism comes from

1420
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:51,280
yeah and the other the other part of

1421
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:52,559
that is

1422
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:56,000
once you when when somebody is set

1423
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,599
you know from birth and it doesn't

1424
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:59,440
matter if it's religion

1425
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:01,680
or whatever it is they have a set belief

1426
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:02,720
system

1427
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,240
the more evidence that you push at them

1428
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,720
the more that it strengthens their

1429
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:10,079
resolve

1430
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,359
you're not going to get somebody to

1431
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:13,119
change their mind

1432
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,720
yeah people actually go farther in their

1433
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:16,319
corners yeah the only thing that that's

1434
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:17,760
where the the only thing that really

1435
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,040
changes it

1436
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:21,119
is experience so people will say you

1437
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,480
know i don't believe that and i'll say

1438
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,480
okay repeat that really slowly

1439
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:26,480
and then they'll go i don't believe that

1440
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,640
i said emphasis on the word believe

1441
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,559
you believe the only way you can really

1442
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:32,240
know is to have the experience who cares

1443
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:32,880
what you believe

1444
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,720
put on a put on a suit and go to church

1445
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:36,240
i could care less what you believe

1446
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,440
and that's what people are doing they

1447
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,359
think that my belief that

1448
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,760
my belief trumps your evidence or that

1449
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:43,280
they'll say oh

1450
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,040
that's right experiencers just they they

1451
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:47,280
think i know you think no it's the

1452
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,000
opposite the experiencer knows it's the

1453
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,520
critic on the outside who hasn't had the

1454
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:53,680
experience who's actually the believer

1455
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,119
and and they've got it completely

1456
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:56,720
backwards only the experience of the

1457
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:57,200
person

1458
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:58,640
and you'll see that's what happens with

1459
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:00,799
ufo experiences when people have them or

1460
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:02,480
have the psychedelic experience or the

1461
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,000
outer body experience or whatever

1462
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,720
they go oh my goodness i realized that

1463
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,240
my ego was crushed i was

1464
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:09,599
and i realized everything was alive

1465
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:11,119
conscious and won you're not going to

1466
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:12,799
get that unless you got an experience

1467
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:15,040
and then you see people absolutely flip

1468
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:16,559
from one side to the other

1469
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:19,839
but convincing them uh with logic

1470
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,520
uh i don't think it worked i mean staten

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00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:23,200
freedom approved it 61 years

1472
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:24,880
and that's what i noticed when i was

1473
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:26,000
there i'm going like man he didn't

1474
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:26,880
convince anybody

1475
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:29,359
anything he was he was basically uh sort

1476
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:30,400
of uh

1477
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,480
having these debates but uh the

1478
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:33,839
experience the people who've had the

1479
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,400
experience

1480
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:36,000
are the ones that are are shifted and

1481
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:37,200
you'll see this you know with

1482
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:38,799
psychedelics where 73

1483
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:41,119
can come out with high dose psilocybin

1484
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:42,559
and they're no longer atheists

1485
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,920
and you get these kind of things where

1486
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:45,839
people are just flipped from one side to

1487
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:46,400
the other

1488
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:47,920
where they suddenly realize like oh my

1489
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:49,760
goodness i mean i had no clue what's

1490
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:51,280
going on and that's what the anomaly

1491
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,000
show us

1492
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:54,240
is you really don't know what's going on

1493
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:55,200
or when when i

1494
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:58,799
as uh sum up ufos i say it's going to be

1495
00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:00,160
a lot less physical and people think

1496
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:01,520
it's gonna be a lot more spiritual than

1497
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:03,040
people think it is and it's gonna be

1498
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:05,280
at least a thousand times more complex

1499
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:06,240
people think it is

1500
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,359
people think they've got this thing

1501
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,359
under understood and the more

1502
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:10,880
you probably know the more you look at

1503
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,799
the ufo thing the weirder it gets the

1504
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,319
more complex it gets

1505
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:16,480
and the more magnificent it appears as

1506
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:17,599
to what these

1507
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:19,119
what this whole thing is about and we

1508
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:21,119
haven't got a clue as to what's going on

1509
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:24,480
have you um uh have you flip-flopped

1510
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,680
since 1975 oh i had no

1511
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:29,760
i always tell the story i never had any

1512
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,160
intention i had no interest in ufos

1513
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:34,480
um in fact i i was raised very religious

1514
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:36,240
and i sort of believed that you know

1515
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,240
religions may or stuff may have happened

1516
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:40,079
in the bible but there are no miracles

1517
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:43,280
and i i i always describe it i i said i

1518
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:44,640
bought the lottery ticket knowing

1519
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:46,000
there's a chance i could win that i

1520
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,799
would see something

1521
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:48,319
when i went out there but i'm not going

1522
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:49,359
to see anything everybody is going to

1523
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:50,319
see something i'm not going to see

1524
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,799
anything

1525
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:52,319
i could not believe it because we were

1526
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:53,359
out there and we were looking around

1527
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:54,640
what are they looking at what's people

1528
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:57,119
what are they uh looking at and when it

1529
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:58,160
came

1530
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:59,440
nobody said is that what they're looking

1531
00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,559
at i wonder if that's a look everybody

1532
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,160
went there it is it was just

1533
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,720
anyway oh my god i couldn't believe it i

1534
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:06,960
was like i'd won the lottery i'd seen a

1535
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:08,720
miracle it was like oh wow

1536
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:11,280
it was just so dramatic i just i just

1537
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:12,160
flipped on

1538
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,839
and and none of the stuff that i did

1539
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,520
when i had the consciousness download

1540
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:17,040
when i was watching colin andrews give

1541
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:18,640
that lecture i had no interest in

1542
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,920
meeting that lecture i had no interest

1543
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,920
in crop circles and again it was like

1544
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,200
when this thing came into my head and

1545
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:25,200
said very clearly put these pieces

1546
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,079
together and said

1547
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:28,640
this is the base of this thing the

1548
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:29,520
answer to this whole thing is

1549
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:30,240
consciousness

1550
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,680
i couldn't think for two days i was just

1551
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,520
like wow and almost

1552
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:36,160
every move i've made i've been dragged

1553
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:37,359
into it i've been flipped

1554
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,200
i really didn't decide to do any of the

1555
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:41,440
stuff i did let's take our break right

1556
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:43,359
here grant we've got a lot to discuss

1557
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,160
tonight this

1558
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:46,319
is fade to black i am your host jimmy

1559
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:47,200
church

1560
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:49,760
tonight grant cameron we're going to go

1561
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:51,119
through everything now grant when we

1562
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:52,000
come back

1563
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:53,680
after the break i want to jump straight

1564
00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:56,559
into the uap task force report

1565
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,720
i want your take on all of that and

1566
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,960
we'll get to everything else

1567
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,559
all of this tonight i'm faded black with

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grant cameron i'm yours jimmy church

1569
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:05,119
stay with us

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we'll be right back after this short

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01:00:12,839 --> 01:00:19,230
break

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[Music]

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hey welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:40,960
host jimmy church tonight grant cameron

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01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:44,880
is here tomorrow night

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01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:48,319
debbie cobble thursday night ross

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01:05:51,829 --> 01:05:50,799
culthart what a great week on the show

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01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:51,839
tonight it's all about

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grant and and grant i mentioned right

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01:05:57,109 --> 01:05:55,720
before the break you know much

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01:06:01,029 --> 01:05:57,119
anticipated

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01:06:01,910 --> 01:06:01,039
lots of uh emotion everything in the big

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01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:01,920
build up

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01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:04,559
to the uap task force report released on

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june 25th

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you've had a little bit of time now a

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couple of weeks to uh

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01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,359
to digest it and take it all in what are

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01:06:16,309 --> 01:06:13,440
your thoughts

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01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:16,319
um absolutely no surprises um i've

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01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:17,119
written five

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01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:20,160
books on this subject of the disclosure

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01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:21,760
of the leaking of material from the

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government and

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01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:27,200
um it's like a repeat of so many times

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01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:28,559
before they've done it

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and i it was a funny incident i was

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promoting a book on coast to coast this

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01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:34,559
is in 2016.

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01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:36,640
it was ufos area 51 and government

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01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:38,160
informants and i was on the first two

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01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:39,839
hours and chris mellon was on the third

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hour

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01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:42,079
and i remember i was talking about oh

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01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:43,359
the government's leaking this stuff and

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01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:43,839
they're

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the government are pushing this stuff

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01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,599
out or whatever

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01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:49,680
and then so then melon comes on the

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01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:51,920
third hour and george says to him says

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so what do you think about

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01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:55,359
what grant says yeah i would have known

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i would have known if the government had

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the ufo program i would have known

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01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:00,240
and a year later elizondo resigns

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october the fourth in the morning

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in the afternoon there's chris mellon

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and and uh

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hell put off and all these guys in a

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meeting in in pentagon city and they're

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basically spelling out the story to the

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new york times for three hours showing

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them videos and

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and this whole thing so to me it's

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always it's this orchestrated thing this

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has been going on this is not the first

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rodeo

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it's been going on time over time after

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time

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and they they get these people it was

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before

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01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:28,240
lewitt was tom long and he went down

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before him it was steven greer

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01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,440
people don't realize that stephen greer

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when he first came out he was walking on

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01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,599
water

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everybody thought he was the messiah and

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before him was bill moore and before him

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01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:37,920
was

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rob emeneger and the disney in the 1950s

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and this is just over and over and over

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01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:44,240
again so i really wasn't that surprised

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01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:47,520
and um i i sort of saw it the way

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01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:49,280
danny sheen was describing it before it

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came and i think he's probably changed

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01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:52,319
his mind a bit but he called it a

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nothing burger

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01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:55,839
and i basically said i mean they are

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they are not going to put out

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the the the key stuff uh this is the

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last thing that the

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the intelligence wants to do because i

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actually did interviews three years ago

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and what i we were doing interviews i

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was doing interviews with melinda leslie

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01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:11,280
who was talking to jim semivan she's

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only going to talk to jim semivan

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01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:14,480
and these interviews are on my youtube

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01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:17,759
channel where jim semivans says to her

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01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:19,279
we're going after congress and we're

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going to get them to

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move this issue forward and get hearings

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and get funding and stuff like that

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01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:28,319
and she said to him she says hey jim so

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01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:29,839
what what could i do to you that would

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really get you upset that you would

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01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:32,480
never talk to me again

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01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:34,719
and he said mess with the money so i

1786
01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:36,080
knew three years ago we've had these

1787
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:37,279
interviews over and over again

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01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,640
that this is what they were doing they

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01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:40,560
were moving in there and they're they're

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01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,359
going to

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01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,759
they use the fear thing they use uh you

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01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:45,279
know they got to sell a thing

1793
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:46,719
inside congress they're going to get the

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01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:48,799
money and then so i was not surprised

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01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:49,759
when they suddenly

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01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,440
it was it was announced while they've

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01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,799
got this and they're going to get the

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01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:54,560
pentagon to do this study

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01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:57,279
and it moved then elizondo and everybody

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01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:59,040
else leaves ttsa and i go well that

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01:09:01,749 --> 01:09:00,560
makes sense and he said we're going into

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01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,759
second gear and this is

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01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:03,600
it's like it's been planned there are

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01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:05,040
i've always believed that there are

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01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,480
people inside the government

1806
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:08,319
like help put off like people who are

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01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:09,520
trying to push it out and there are

1808
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:11,120
people who are trying to stop it

1809
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:14,159
and the the people on the inside

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01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:15,839
that want it out have learned a little

1811
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,359
bit better so this version

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01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:19,520
of of the disclosure thing is a little

1813
01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:21,359
more i say it's like uh

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01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:23,839
disclosure on steroids so we had the the

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01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:25,679
version of bill moore and we had all

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01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:26,560
these other

1817
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:28,880
situations but we and this is i always

1818
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:30,880
point out one of the most

1819
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:32,480
important interviews on disclosure that

1820
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:34,880
was ever done was done by you in 2016

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01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:35,920
with tom delong

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01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:38,000
people need to listen to that interview

1823
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,759
how that worked this all started with

1824
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:41,199
tom delong

1825
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:45,199
contacted to give this

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01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:47,359
speech at lockheed skunk works then he's

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01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:48,880
taken into the skiff

1828
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:51,359
people think tom delong had this phone

1829
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:52,560
phone book and he phoned up all these

1830
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,920
people he didn't do any such thing

1831
01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:55,679
he was brought in the same as bill moore

1832
01:09:59,189 --> 01:09:57,520
he they he said to them he made this

1833
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:59,199
pitch oh we need this disclosure

1834
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:01,280
i can get this thing out and the one guy

1835
01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:02,560
if you remember i think it was on your

1836
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:02,880
in

1837
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,880
him hey this may actually work

1838
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:08,000
and then two weeks later he gets the

1839
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:09,440
phone call hey go to washington we need

1840
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:10,000
you to meet

1841
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:11,760
in washington he goes and he's these two

1842
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:13,920
guys in behind this desk sitting in this

1843
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:14,560
room

1844
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:16,159
and in pentagon city the same place

1845
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:17,760
where the louis alexander meaning the

1846
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:19,040
same area of town

1847
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:21,120
and the guy said this does not happen on

1848
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:22,640
the hill this does not happen at the

1849
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:24,239
white house this happens when people

1850
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,520
behind a table like this

1851
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:26,880
decide to take the football and move it

1852
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:28,480
down the field and then they send it to

1853
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:29,120
nasa

1854
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,360
to space command and he meets with mckay

1855
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:34,960
and then he goes to wright patterson he

1856
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:37,280
meets with uh mccaslin

1857
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:39,360
and then he gets robert weiss to the

1858
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,960
they give him robert weiss and they give

1859
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:41,920
him all these people

1860
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:43,920
so it's the same same sort of story and

1861
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,920
they're they're it's people i believe on

1862
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,520
the inside who are trying to push it out

1863
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:49,440
who are trying to get funding for

1864
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:52,640
uh ufo research or or whatever it is uh

1865
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:53,440
i'm i'm a

1866
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:54,960
i'm always a little bit upset about the

1867
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:57,040
threat thing i i cause i

1868
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,640
i can give you i'll give you an example

1869
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,800
in a second but i'm i'm always

1870
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:02,320
worried about are we going to start

1871
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:04,000
another war is this what this is about

1872
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:06,719
if you get the military um eisenhower

1873
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:08,000
stood up said beware

1874
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:10,080
the military industrial congressional

1875
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:12,000
complex that was the original speech

1876
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:13,440
they took congressional out of the

1877
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:14,080
speech

1878
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,760
and that was this idea that once you get

1879
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:17,520
congress involved and everybody's

1880
01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:19,199
getting jobs and everybody's got people

1881
01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:20,000
in there

1882
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,880
like the f-35 jet fighter made in 46

1883
01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:23,760
different states

1884
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:25,120
because nobody's going to vote against

1885
01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:26,880
it if you've got people hired in your

1886
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:27,440
district

1887
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:29,600
that are working on it if it the cost

1888
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:31,199
overruns nobody's going to say anything

1889
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,960
right and that's so that's what i always

1890
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:34,320
saw it was this movement

1891
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:38,159
and but what i say uh it's working good

1892
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:40,000
i think they're they're moving it along

1893
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,920
and i'm most happy that danny sheehan is

1894
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:43,679
involved i i trust danny sheen

1895
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:44,719
implicitly

1896
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:46,320
and i think that if danny sheehan's on

1897
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:48,480
the on on our team we could actually win

1898
01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:49,520
for the first time i think we can

1899
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:50,480
actually win

1900
01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:54,640
but one of the things that um sort of um

1901
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,719
upset me is that what have we actually

1902
01:12:00,630 --> 01:11:58,400
learned after

1903
01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:00,640
this report that we didn't know before

1904
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:01,920
we have lacks literally

1905
01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:04,159
learned nothing all we've learned now is

1906
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:05,199
that congress

1907
01:12:07,910 --> 01:12:06,880
has been briefed and then you say well

1908
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:07,920
what are they what would they brief them

1909
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:08,320
on

1910
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,480
can't tell you no secret so we got

1911
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,000
another level of secrecy we got the

1912
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:14,480
the the the congressional guys and even

1913
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:15,520
you we were talking to

1914
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:17,600
alexander last night and i had to laugh

1915
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:18,560
and he said hey

1916
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:20,480
the report's what 400 pages oh there was

1917
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:21,600
74 pages

1918
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,520
and it's like well no it's like and are

1919
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:25,199
you no it was danny sheehan that's right

1920
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,800
right

1921
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:28,960
74. i mean if we can't even figure out

1922
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:30,560
how many pages there are

1923
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:32,000
i mean what are we really being told i

1924
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:33,520
mean what's classified about how many

1925
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,400
pages are in the

1926
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:36,400
in the classified report classified is

1927
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:37,679
supposed to be sources and methods i

1928
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:39,040
mean what are they using a special way

1929
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:40,880
to count paper or something i mean this

1930
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:42,480
is crazy we're not learning anything

1931
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:43,199
we're just

1932
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:46,719
where we're being told yeah yeah there's

1933
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:47,840
something happening in there they're

1934
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:48,800
moving this thing along

1935
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,560
but in terms of what we got we really

1936
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:52,000
didn't get anything that we didn't

1937
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,960
already know

1938
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,880
and and i would say that what's what's

1939
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,040
happened is that because

1940
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,440
semi-van and people like that push the

1941
01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,440
melon and semi-van particularly

1942
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:03,440
push congress into this position where

1943
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:05,040
they asked for the report

1944
01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:06,560
the pentagon didn't want to do this

1945
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:07,920
report this is the last report in the

1946
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:09,120
world they wanted to do

1947
01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:10,560
i mean they had this thing all covered

1948
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:12,400
up and and they were forced to do the

1949
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,159
report so they gave the least amount of

1950
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:15,760
material that they could

1951
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:18,080
in terms of what they had now i think

1952
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:19,440
from what i heard from jim

1953
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:22,640
um from james fox he had talked to

1954
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,360
podesta

1955
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:26,880
think that's what you need is you need

1956
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:28,719
the green light from the president to

1957
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:30,239
put pressure on

1958
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:33,199
the the the pentagon to play ball

1959
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,760
because if

1960
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,520
if he's putting on then they have to do

1961
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:37,199
something and i think you've got an

1962
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:39,040
indication that something has happened

1963
01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:41,040
because uh you suddenly have the

1964
01:13:44,070 --> 01:13:42,320
director of nasa

1965
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:44,080
who suddenly stands up and says oh we

1966
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,600
should investigate ufos

1967
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:47,520
i remember in the carter administration

1968
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,960
the idea with the president is the

1969
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:50,560
president can't touch the subject

1970
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:52,719
but he can make moves and jimmy carter

1971
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,400
had sent his press secretary he

1972
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,880
says science advisor down to nasa to do

1973
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:58,880
another blue book study and they said no

1974
01:14:01,350 --> 01:14:00,239
you cut our budget by five billion

1975
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:01,360
dollars we're not gonna

1976
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,640
we're not doing any we haven't got the

1977
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:04,159
money for this if you've got metal we'll

1978
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,120
look at the metal

1979
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,600
and they would refuse to do the study so

1980
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:09,280
when you have nasa step forward

1981
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:11,520
and say oh we should investigate ufos

1982
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:12,320
number one

1983
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:14,000
it indicates that there's a green light

1984
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:15,440
from the from and i've actually filed an

1985
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,120
foi to find out this is true

1986
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:19,199
if the science advisor office because

1987
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,800
that's where pedesta said it should be

1988
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:22,640
it should be in the ostp which is where

1989
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:24,159
the rockefeller initiative

1990
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:27,040
took place and and he's advised biden to

1991
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:28,560
put it into that office

1992
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:29,920
right now it's in the armed services

1993
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:31,920
which means weapons uh i think it should

1994
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,719
be in the science

1995
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:34,960
aspect but the uh the other thing that

1996
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:36,400
it it shows

1997
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:39,600
is the the uh fact that

1998
01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:41,920
uh tom delong was right all along that

1999
01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:43,600
tom delonge is much more important the

2000
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:45,120
hillary clinton tom delonge

2001
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:46,800
podesta thing because if you go back to

2002
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:49,040
the wikileaks emails you'll see

2003
01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:51,840
a memo that was written that tom delong

2004
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,080
reads to john pitt gives to john podesta

2005
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,480
and that is mccaslin two-star general

2006
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:58,000
wright-patterson air force base

2007
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:59,679
who actually says when disclosure

2008
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:01,520
happens this is what you should do and

2009
01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:02,800
one of the things he says

2010
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:04,880
you should give it to nasa to run you

2011
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:06,080
need somebody

2012
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:07,760
if it's in their job jar otherwise

2013
01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:09,360
nobody's gonna do anything and so i was

2014
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,800
not surprised when suddenly oh

2015
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,719
now suddenly the director of nasa says

2016
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:14,880
oh we should be looking at ufos

2017
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:16,880
you see that this thing is moving along

2018
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:18,159
at a pretty good clip

2019
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:19,679
but in terms of what are we actually

2020
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:21,600
going to learn so when this report i

2021
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,480
already knew that

2022
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:24,080
there was really nothing of significance

2023
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:25,600
going to come out of the report i said

2024
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:26,960
the most important thing is not

2025
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:29,120
again does the government know is the

2026
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,239
government going to big brother going to

2027
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:32,159
tell us ufos exist that doesn't change

2028
01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:32,960
anything

2029
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:36,320
i had i had the the uh post game show

2030
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:37,760
where i had all the experiences i said

2031
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:38,960
okay the government's going to tell you

2032
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:39,920
nothing

2033
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:42,000
but here let's get all the experiencers

2034
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,120
on and

2035
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:46,000
what the other side is saying because

2036
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:47,440
there's a disclosure not only by the

2037
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:48,159
government

2038
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:50,080
the alien intelligence or whatever this

2039
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,760
is is disclosing as well

2040
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:53,520
they're opening themselves up why do you

2041
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,960
host the lights on them they have lights

2042
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:56,480
so you can see them they want you to see

2043
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,600
them they're they're playing the

2044
01:16:01,070 --> 01:15:59,040
disclosure game as well

2045
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:01,080
and so i said let's put the this

2046
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:02,480
experiencers on

2047
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:04,080
right after so that evening i had the

2048
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:05,440
experiences and said okay this is what

2049
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:06,000
the other side

2050
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:07,679
is saying but that's what you're not

2051
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:09,120
going to see if those even if there's

2052
01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:10,480
congressional hearings

2053
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:12,560
what shocked me is you're you're not

2054
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:14,640
going to see any experiences go on like

2055
01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:15,679
no tomorrow you've got

2056
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:19,120
debbie cobble on and the idea is

2057
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:20,560
the new york times said it we're not

2058
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:21,920
talking aliens don't use the word alien

2059
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,640
we're not using the

2060
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,960
we're daily we're just talking about uh

2061
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:25,760
threats and

2062
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,760
ufo sightings and stuff like that and

2063
01:16:30,790 --> 01:16:29,120
the experiencers

2064
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:30,800
are going to be ostracized they're going

2065
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:32,320
to be left out of the process they're

2066
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:33,520
not going to be brought in front of

2067
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:34,480
congress

2068
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:36,080
we're just looking at technology we're

2069
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:37,440
looking at ufo sightings we're looking

2070
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:39,600
at potential threats national security

2071
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:41,040
all this kind of stuff and i say you've

2072
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:42,320
got to listen to the experiences because

2073
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:43,840
they're the ones that are actually so

2074
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:44,719
that's what i did

2075
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:46,480
i actually had the experience just tell

2076
01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:48,239
what what the other side is doing

2077
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,560
and you you have people like like debbie

2078
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:51,840
that you're going to have on tomorrow

2079
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,840
that the idea is i was shocked when we

2080
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:55,840
had a panel and actually if

2081
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,480
a top prominent ufo researcher said the

2082
01:17:01,510 --> 01:17:00,080
experiencers should step down

2083
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,520
they should stop talking because they're

2084
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,360
going to destroy disclosure this is a

2085
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:05,520
you know a knife in disclosure it's like

2086
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:06,880
these crazy people with their stories

2087
01:17:09,669 --> 01:17:07,840
about aliens we

2088
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,679
don't want this stuff we want to keep it

2089
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:12,239
and as soon as they say well et's exist

2090
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:13,679
well then they can start talking and i

2091
01:17:17,189 --> 01:17:16,000
was just horrified that we're going to

2092
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,199
i mean it's like if you're an

2093
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:19,199
experiencer then it's like you better

2094
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:19,840
shut up

2095
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:21,120
we got to cross and we got some nails

2096
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:22,560
here if you keep talking we're going to

2097
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:23,120
use it

2098
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:25,199
and that that's the part that annoys me

2099
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:26,560
is that the experience here

2100
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,920
is going to be cut out of this thing

2101
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:29,520
nobody wants to talk to aliens nobody

2102
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:30,000
wants to talk

2103
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:32,080
to experiencers what are the the things

2104
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:34,080
doing here it's all about technology

2105
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:34,960
it's all about

2106
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:37,440
uh threat and this sort of stuff and

2107
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:39,840
it's a very materialistic uh paradigm

2108
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:41,120
and i feel very sorry for the

2109
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:42,880
experiencers who will actually tell you

2110
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,239
what's actually going on

2111
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:47,280
now what about uh the the

2112
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:51,040
other part of the movement the certainly

2113
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:52,719
the newer side of this and i talked

2114
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:54,880
about this in the opening of the show

2115
01:18:01,990 --> 01:17:58,320
um that came into this after

2116
01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:02,000
uh december of 2017 and

2117
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:04,640
and they thought that this was going to

2118
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:06,719
be an instant gratification that we were

2119
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,719
going to go straight to disclosure

2120
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:10,960
uh they had ttsa they had tom delong

2121
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:12,000
they that all of the

2122
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:15,120
you know but to them this was uh

2123
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:16,960
an interest that was brand new they

2124
01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:18,560
don't know about the past

2125
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:22,239
and suddenly in in a very short time

2126
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:24,960
you go straight to this uap task force

2127
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:26,320
and their report

2128
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:29,520
and they were expecting this report

2129
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:31,600
to say that et is real we've made

2130
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,199
contact and it wasn't

2131
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:35,760
in the report does that take the wind

2132
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,760
out of the sales for everybody that came

2133
01:18:40,229 --> 01:18:39,440
in here are they going to hang out with

2134
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:40,239
us

2135
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:43,120
and keep the energy level up or are they

2136
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:45,040
going to lose focus

2137
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,560
no i think this thing keeps moving i

2138
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:48,320
mean they've got a plan lou alizando if

2139
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:49,920
you listen to him carefully he says this

2140
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:50,480
all the time

2141
01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:52,159
it's like now he even said someone we

2142
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:53,360
had a panel and someone said he had

2143
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:54,159
brought up third

2144
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:56,800
third gear i mean this is all i think

2145
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:58,400
planned that they know where to go next

2146
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:58,960
day

2147
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:00,640
um you you gotta remember jim semivan

2148
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:02,159
was part of this thing so was melon

2149
01:19:05,590 --> 01:19:03,840
these guys have worked inside congress

2150
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:05,600
they know how to move this thing along

2151
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:09,040
they know how to how to uh move people

2152
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,760
to

2153
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:11,840
uh vote in a certain position so these

2154
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:13,440
people may be a little disappointed now

2155
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:14,960
welcome to ufology i mean we've been

2156
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,239
waiting probably 50

2157
01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:18,480
50 years for this or 75 years for this

2158
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:20,320
to happen it moves very slowly but if

2159
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:21,679
you start looking i always said

2160
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:22,800
one of the things that we should do is

2161
01:19:26,149 --> 01:19:24,400
listen to the very important people so

2162
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:26,159
you listen to alexander you listen to

2163
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:27,520
melon you you try and get the

2164
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,400
transcripts

2165
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:30,800
you listen to jim semivan you listen to

2166
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:32,000
uh pandolfi

2167
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:33,600
kit green all these people you gotta

2168
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:35,440
listen very carefully and if you listen

2169
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:36,719
to them carefully you'll see

2170
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:38,960
a lot of the things that pop up that

2171
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:40,800
indicate well this may have happened

2172
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:42,320
one of the examples i'll give you is bob

2173
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:43,760
bigelow whatever you think about bob

2174
01:19:46,709 --> 01:19:44,960
bigelow should listen to what bob

2175
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:46,719
bigelow says because bob bigelow

2176
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:50,080
in 2013 uh then this was what just after

2177
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:50,719
he had the

2178
01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:53,280
the program with the uh with running

2179
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:54,480
this program and he's running another

2180
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:56,080
program now which i'll point out

2181
01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:58,640
which nobody wants to pick up but anyway

2182
01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:59,360
he um

2183
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:01,280
he george said are you in favor of

2184
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:03,600
disclosure this is 2013.

2185
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:05,600
and bob bigelow said no i'm not in favor

2186
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:06,719
of disclosure

2187
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:10,960
i'm in favor of uh um confirmation

2188
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:13,679
you need to get confirmation first then

2189
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:14,560
you can go

2190
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:16,159
down the road and start talking about

2191
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:18,000
disclosure and aliens and stuff

2192
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:19,840
that's exactly what they've done he said

2193
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:21,280
that and it's almost like this is part

2194
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,800
of the plan that they've seen the plan

2195
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,480
that you move one step at a time don't

2196
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,400
move too fast you even see this with the

2197
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:28,080
with with the people talking like don't

2198
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:30,000
bring this up don't bring this up

2199
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:32,239
as if they're moving it step by step and

2200
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:34,000
even uh the last conversation that

2201
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:34,880
leslie had

2202
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:40,960
jim semivan he said uh you're gonna see

2203
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:41,760
this report

2204
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:43,120
it's going to be it's gonna have this

2205
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:44,719
stuff in it basically describe what was

2206
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:45,440
gonna happen

2207
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:47,280
and he said and she asked him of course

2208
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:49,199
about the you know the abduction and all

2209
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:50,000
this kind of stuff

2210
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:52,239
and he said the third rail will come up

2211
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:53,760
and they call it the third rail so this

2212
01:20:56,870 --> 01:20:54,639
will come

2213
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:56,880
but it's going to come in time so once

2214
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:59,040
we get sort of an announcement

2215
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:01,040
that this thing is for real then people

2216
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:02,560
are going to go okay so what's going on

2217
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:03,920
and where i disagree with a lot of

2218
01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:04,639
people

2219
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:08,480
saying oh they're going to announce the

2220
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,800
e.t i'm saying if you listen carefully

2221
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,320
to the very top people

2222
01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:14,719
whether it's obam what obama said what

2223
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:15,679
trump said

2224
01:21:21,350 --> 01:21:19,199
uh what louis lozando has said yes

2225
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:21,360
or i'll i can talk about i got the

2226
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:23,040
johnson study eyes only study for

2227
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,719
president johnson i've got the file

2228
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:26,320
as to what happened there it's always

2229
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:29,360
the same thing yes ufos exist

2230
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:30,400
this is what they're telling you

2231
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:31,679
everybody's telling you the same thing

2232
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:33,199
yes ufos exist

2233
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:35,840
and we don't know what it is i believe

2234
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,800
that to be true

2235
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:38,480
everybody's saying no this is obviously

2236
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:41,120
e.t and i say okay if it's obviously e.t

2237
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,040
let's go back to 1895

2238
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:45,120
and we had all these ships and some

2239
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,880
people say there's 10 000 sightings in

2240
01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:48,480
the united states of these airships

2241
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:51,360
wooden ships with propellers and sails

2242
01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:52,000
on them

2243
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:53,280
and these big lights that they would

2244
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:54,719
need these batteries that we didn't have

2245
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:55,440
at the time

2246
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:56,880
and they were flying around the western

2247
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:58,239
united states and people would talk to

2248
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,800
them and say

2249
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,239
so where are you from they said we're

2250
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:02,800
from mars so are they from mars are they

2251
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,280
e.t

2252
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:05,199
were those aliens were those guys flying

2253
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:06,320
around in 1895

2254
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:10,400
86 ets the same thing as you go

2255
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:13,360
from 1950 i looked at all the sightings

2256
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:14,239
before

2257
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:16,000
um nancy tremaine who was actually

2258
01:22:18,149 --> 01:22:17,520
before betty and barney hill two months

2259
01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:18,159
before

2260
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:22,639
over from mars we're from venus we're

2261
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:23,520
from the moon

2262
01:22:26,470 --> 01:22:24,800
nobody believes that anymore i remember

2263
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:26,480
the canadians were in contact with an

2264
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:27,600
alien by the name of alpha and i

2265
01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:28,320
remember that

2266
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,840
metallurgist who was involved in this

2267
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:31,440
said let me let me make something very

2268
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:32,480
clear grant

2269
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,400
neither wilbur smith or i ever believe

2270
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:36,320
that apha was from uranus

2271
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:38,080
we never believed that and it was the

2272
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:39,440
whole idea so are they

2273
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:42,400
actually ets and you go back and you see

2274
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:43,679
this reflection

2275
01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:46,000
of of who we are in the 1890s there were

2276
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:47,199
human type beings

2277
01:22:51,189 --> 01:22:50,480
then you you you look and before nancy

2278
01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:51,199
tremaine if you

2279
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:52,719
look at all the humanoid sightings from

2280
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:54,560
50 for 47

2281
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:58,320
through to 61 you'll see i probably 20

2282
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:00,639
at least of the beings that were seen

2283
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:02,080
had helmets on

2284
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:04,560
glass helmets and with hoses a lot of

2285
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:06,000
them had hoses coming out of the back of

2286
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:06,639
the helmet

2287
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:09,440
well that's basically 1950 movies and

2288
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:10,239
cartoons

2289
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:11,760
and i think they're reflecting what we

2290
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,000
are i think they do not know if this

2291
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:16,560
is is e.t and the example i've brought

2292
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,320
up and nobody wants to go there

2293
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:20,800
and and this is the whole idea if you if

2294
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:22,080
you've interviewed jim

2295
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:24,320
um jim penniston you can ask him about

2296
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,000
this uh you know that

2297
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:28,080
um kit green and nolan were running

2298
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:29,440
around trying to get dna

2299
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:32,880
and and and mris from the experiencers

2300
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:33,360
trying to

2301
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:35,600
have this idea about uh the military

2302
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:37,040
guys how do these have people make

2303
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:37,760
contact

2304
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:39,520
people being injured this sort of stuff

2305
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:40,960
and they went to peniston

2306
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:43,199
and and pennison said well i'm not

2307
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:44,239
burros you know i'm not going to roll

2308
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,040
over like burrows

2309
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:47,280
uh you i want to know kit what that's

2310
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,800
going on what are you doing

2311
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:50,480
and he says well it's it's kind of like

2312
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:52,080
propulsion he said why can't you think

2313
01:23:54,950 --> 01:23:53,440
i'm stupid it's not propulsion what are

2314
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:54,960
you doing propulsion you said well maybe

2315
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,840
i'm using the war

2316
01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:57,600
the wrong word we're trying to figure

2317
01:24:01,830 --> 01:23:59,600
out how does the phenomena pop in

2318
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:01,840
and pop out as quickly we're trying to

2319
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:02,960
figure out how does it move

2320
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:03,840
interdimensionally

2321
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:05,920
so then penis says are you working for

2322
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:06,880
the government

2323
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:10,000
and he goes well yeah and he said well

2324
01:24:12,629 --> 01:24:10,560
how many

2325
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:12,639
eight guys and he said it's a defensive

2326
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:15,040
army yeah and bigelow has the contract

2327
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,280
so here you have this idea and then you

2328
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:19,600
see uh the guy from the politico

2329
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:22,719
brian um whatever's bender

2330
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:25,040
yeah bender you see that he writes that

2331
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:27,040
there was a defense program that looked

2332
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:29,199
at the interdimensional aspect

2333
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:31,679
of the et phenomena that maybe they are

2334
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:33,679
from right here but a different right

2335
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:34,080
here

2336
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:36,080
or if you see louis lozando's interview

2337
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:38,080
though he did with the brief

2338
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:40,400
they say okay is it is it on world or

2339
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:42,080
off world and he goes

2340
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,800
hang on that's that's not the only two

2341
01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:46,639
options and he starts down this rabbit

2342
01:24:49,510 --> 01:24:47,199
hole

2343
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:49,520
about you know quantum physics and all

2344
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,800
this kind of stuff and i remember the

2345
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:52,560
experiencer yossi ronan

2346
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:54,239
who had been told this he'd been given

2347
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:55,679
this by these beings he wrote a book

2348
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:57,199
called one the main message that they're

2349
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,080
trying to get across

2350
01:25:01,590 --> 01:25:00,000
right and he said he contacts me said do

2351
01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:01,600
you hear what alexander said i said yeah

2352
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:02,159
i heard it

2353
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:04,080
we did a podcast we played this thing

2354
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:05,600
and we had the same thing and it's this

2355
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:06,400
idea

2356
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:08,080
don't assume this thing is e.t because

2357
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:09,440
that's the question they asked him is it

2358
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,920
et

2359
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,520
and he's saying well no and you'll hear

2360
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:13,360
if you listen very carefully these guys

2361
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:15,120
they say no we don't know what it is lu

2362
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:16,719
says we don't know what it is

2363
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:18,560
and it's not that we don't know the ufos

2364
01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:20,320
yeah we have bodies we have crafts

2365
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,960
but unless the alien has a zeta reticuli

2366
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:24,400
passport how do you know it's from

2367
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:25,360
another planet

2368
01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:27,040
that's where i think the thing so people

2369
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:28,800
are waiting for an et disclosure

2370
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:30,320
i don't think they're going to go there

2371
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:31,920
because i think that they

2372
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:34,800
understand that this thing is popping in

2373
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:36,000
and it's popping out

2374
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:38,960
and um you especially with the stuff we

2375
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:39,600
got from

2376
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:42,239
from kit green that leaked out uh the

2377
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:43,600
there's a woman that she was dealing

2378
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:44,000
with k

2379
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:46,880
randall may uh this tape leaked out of

2380
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:48,080
kit talking to her

2381
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:49,520
and he said who are we dealing with and

2382
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:51,360
she says oh there's this 12th

2383
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:52,719
there's this portal off the coast of

2384
01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:54,880
california and she starts talking about

2385
01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:55,600
all this stuff

2386
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:57,679
and that is really weird stuff this gets

2387
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:59,440
into portals it gets into all this kind

2388
01:26:01,669 --> 01:26:00,080
of stuff

2389
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:01,679
and it's that's why i say it's thousand

2390
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:03,440
times more complex than people think it

2391
01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:03,840
is

2392
01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:05,120
i don't think the government can go

2393
01:26:07,270 --> 01:26:06,639
there that's where i think the stumbling

2394
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:07,280
block is

2395
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:08,560
they really don't know what they're up

2396
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:10,480
against they have they have crafts yes

2397
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,760
they can't fly them because they need a

2398
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:13,679
consciousness interface they can't fly

2399
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:14,239
them

2400
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:16,320
and and the idea is that you have you

2401
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:17,679
can have all the hardware you want it's

2402
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:19,840
like dropping a cell phone to leonardo

2403
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:20,480
da vinci

2404
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,719
unless you know how this thing works

2405
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:24,080
it's not that simple

2406
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,600
and i think they know this is for real

2407
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:27,600
and that's what the result i got

2408
01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:30,000
when i did i got the material from the

2409
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:31,520
eyes only study done for president

2410
01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:33,120
johnson people i said oh the president

2411
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:34,400
doesn't know what's going on and it's

2412
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:35,360
like give your head a shake the

2413
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:36,960
president can get whatever he wants

2414
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:39,679
and james mcdonald and you you're

2415
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,719
talking to ross

2416
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:42,800
on thursday right ross talks about this

2417
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:44,480
one of the witnesses from the

2418
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:48,239
the school case in um in australia this

2419
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:49,360
grade 9 teacher

2420
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:51,679
was confronted and threatened but a year

2421
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:53,440
later he says he was contacted by the

2422
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:55,120
white house by a guy representing the

2423
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:55,840
white house

2424
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:58,159
which was james mcdonald who was on the

2425
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:59,760
the congressional hearing

2426
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:01,120
he was this professor from the

2427
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:03,040
university of arizona and

2428
01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:05,440
uh he was friends with president johnson

2429
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:06,159
and he was

2430
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,560
he was going after president johnson and

2431
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:10,080
johnson said to the guy that wrote the

2432
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,719
restor

2433
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:12,960
report his name is frank rand he said

2434
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:13,920
get that

2435
01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:16,400
be off my neck tell him you're working

2436
01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:17,280
on this problem

2437
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:18,639
and we need to get rid of this guy and

2438
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:20,400
he did a study they did a study

2439
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,000
that had all the top people lockheed

2440
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:23,920
skunk works head of lucky skunk works

2441
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:25,040
uh three star general for wright

2442
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,639
patterson air force base all the same

2443
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:28,080
positions that tom delonge

2444
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,440
exactly like almost like a carbon copy

2445
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:33,120
and and what they did is they had a

2446
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:34,480
nine-month study eight

2447
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:37,600
of the top people cia headed

2448
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:39,840
the weird desk at cia all these guys and

2449
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:41,440
what they came up was exactly what

2450
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:42,320
you're hearing now

2451
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:45,280
from the government yes this is for real

2452
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:46,400
and we really

2453
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:49,120
don't know what it is for sure i've only

2454
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:49,760
got about

2455
01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:51,679
two minutes before the break grant i

2456
01:27:56,550 --> 01:27:53,040
wanted to ask you this

2457
01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:56,560
were you surprised about the lack

2458
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:00,159
of cia participation

2459
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,520
in the uap task force report well that's

2460
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:05,360
what i'm saying this is this was forced

2461
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:07,840
to the defense department so ci is not

2462
01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:09,440
part everybody's running for the

2463
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:11,920
i'm sure everybody's running for the

2464
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:12,480
ills

2465
01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:13,840
everybody's trying to cover up as fast

2466
01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:16,800
as they can uh to stay out of the

2467
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:17,920
the light of this thing because this

2468
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:19,840
thing has sort of exploded in their face

2469
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:21,280
this is the last thing they want to do

2470
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:22,960
so they're not going to drag the cia

2471
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:25,360
in um you and and what i would think

2472
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:27,120
that the cia is going to do is they

2473
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:28,239
start dropping like

2474
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:31,679
you know dolan gets some leak of

2475
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:33,360
stuff from the classified material i

2476
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:35,679
think that's what the cia role might be

2477
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:36,320
is to

2478
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,400
throw mud in the water to try to muddy

2479
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:40,639
it up but it this is basically just a

2480
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:42,080
request made to the

2481
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:45,120
intelligence uh half the uh alessandro

2482
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:46,639
says half the people weren't even talked

2483
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:47,199
to

2484
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:50,719
move in

2485
01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:53,280
and put pressure to get this uh properly

2486
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:54,960
the one weird thing that i found was

2487
01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:56,480
that on the day of the release

2488
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:58,480
i actually got my foa released that i

2489
01:29:03,030 --> 01:28:59,920
i'd filed as soon as the

2490
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:03,040
um the uh it was announced that the atip

2491
01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:04,000
program existed

2492
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:05,440
i actually got the guy who asked hillary

2493
01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:07,199
clinton the question he was a reporter

2494
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:07,679
in

2495
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:10,960
first come first serve

2496
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,960
and the day that the report was released

2497
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:14,880
i got an foa back and so did somebody

2498
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:15,280
else

2499
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:17,280
almost like somebody's behind the scenes

2500
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:18,960
is putting pressure so i have

2501
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:22,000
a lot of optimism that there's so many

2502
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:22,880
people are going to put

2503
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,080
and they really can't cover it up

2504
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:26,480
anymore and the the bottom line is danny

2505
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:27,440
sheehan

2506
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:30,239
is going is not going to walk away

2507
01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:30,800
without

2508
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,600
this thing solved uh they have no idea

2509
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:34,800
who they're up against

2510
01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:36,719
uh danny sheehan is not going to let go

2511
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:38,159
he knows where the bodies are buried he

2512
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:39,199
knows how it works

2513
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,639
they're not going to walk around him

2514
01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:42,159
he's even been able to get them all to

2515
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:43,040
work together

2516
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:44,080
instead of having three different

2517
01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:45,679
reports and now i've heard there's

2518
01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:47,199
another report so you're starting to see

2519
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:47,679
this

2520
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:49,760
catalog there's been another complaint

2521
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:51,120
filed i'm doing the interview with the

2522
01:29:53,910 --> 01:29:52,400
guy on saturday

2523
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:53,920
and now we've got a new option so if

2524
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:55,360
you've been offended by this thing you

2525
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:56,719
can actually file a complaint

2526
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:58,320
and go and force these people to do

2527
01:30:02,709 --> 01:29:59,920
these investigations this is

2528
01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:02,719
much more powerful than foia's but danny

2529
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:04,080
is on the inside now

2530
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:06,159
and i think with danny there we could

2531
01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:07,600
very well win this

2532
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:09,120
let's take our break right here our

2533
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:11,520
guest tonight grant cameron

2534
01:30:14,790 --> 01:30:14,320
now grant you mentioned right before the

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01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:14,800
break

2536
01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:18,000
he said bob bigelow has a new project

2537
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:19,040
i'm going to ask grant

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01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:21,520
about that when we return this is fade

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to black i'm murals jimmy church

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[Music]

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you are listening to fade to black with

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01:33:14,070 --> 01:33:13,030
oh hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

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jimmy church

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this is revolution the revolution will

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not be televised

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ciao

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so

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[Music]

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01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:06,229
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:08,800
host human church tonight grant cameron

2604
01:34:12,709 --> 01:34:12,080
whoo man and tonight right now on the

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do it's really that simple

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50 off today it shows like this

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that you need to keep from the man let's

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01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:17,440
get back to grant

2637
01:35:23,590 --> 01:35:21,280
grant you said bob bigelow

2638
01:35:24,629 --> 01:35:23,600
has got a new program what's he got

2639
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,639
going on

2640
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:26,960
okay well i mean as i mentioned this is

2641
01:35:29,990 --> 01:35:28,080
this comes out of penis

2642
01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:30,000
i'll actually read you the the piece out

2643
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:31,440
of peniston's book that talks about this

2644
01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:32,880
so this is actually going back

2645
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:35,920
probably sounds like it's about 2013

2646
01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:37,040
2014.

2647
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:38,320
you knew that they were doing this

2648
01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:40,480
experiment with they had the military

2649
01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:42,239
people with the injuries where they were

2650
01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:44,000
doing the mris they were scanning

2651
01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:45,119
people's brains

2652
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,040
and they were doing the dna stuff so

2653
01:35:51,109 --> 01:35:48,960
nolan was doing the dna stuff

2654
01:35:53,109 --> 01:35:51,119
so that's where peniston confronts him

2655
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:53,119
like why do you need my dna

2656
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:55,840
and why why do you need to do a brain

2657
01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:56,400
scan

2658
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,760
i'm not going to go live and he never

2659
01:36:00,070 --> 01:35:59,040
did go along with it he never did give

2660
01:36:03,430 --> 01:36:00,080
him what he wanted

2661
01:36:04,750 --> 01:36:03,440
but he said um i'll read what peniston

2662
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:04,760
says from his book page

2663
01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:07,440
616. to conclude with what he had

2664
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,960
already told me he's talking to green i

2665
01:36:12,070 --> 01:36:10,080
asked

2666
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:12,080
so the purpose of you being here is that

2667
01:36:14,390 --> 01:36:13,840
you want to help me green stuttered and

2668
01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:14,400
said

2669
01:36:18,550 --> 01:36:16,639
yes adding that it would help his own

2670
01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:18,560
research with this phenomena especially

2671
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:20,320
where the others who have had similar

2672
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:21,600
experiences are concerned

2673
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:22,960
then i asked who are the others that

2674
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:25,600
were being researched and

2675
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:28,159
also asked if he was working for any of

2676
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:30,400
the three subcontractors who

2677
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,760
routinely do us usap unacknowledged

2678
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:35,600
special access program work

2679
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:37,360
i then named the three major government

2680
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:39,520
contractors largest being science

2681
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:41,520
applications international corporation

2682
01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:43,360
along with bigelow airspace being the

2683
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,679
last hesitantly green said that he had

2684
01:36:49,669 --> 01:36:47,360
never heard of the first two

2685
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:49,679
but not the last one very convincingly

2686
01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:51,520
however green then went on to say that

2687
01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:52,639
he was working with a group

2688
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:54,880
who are exploring cases that needed to

2689
01:36:58,229 --> 01:36:55,920
be looked at

2690
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:58,239
and i asked are you doing sub granting

2691
01:37:02,629 --> 01:36:59,199
subcontra

2692
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:02,639
then green said yes

2693
01:37:06,550 --> 01:37:04,800
adding that he was currently doing work

2694
01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:06,560
for bigelow aerospace with a group of

2695
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:08,560
eight scientists

2696
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:10,480
eight other scientists and medical

2697
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:12,400
professionals now there was a tape that

2698
01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:13,199
leaked out with

2699
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:15,040
with kit green talking to this intuitive

2700
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:16,480
which was kind of interesting

2701
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:17,760
that they're they're using this

2702
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:19,840
intuitive that he said was a 95

2703
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:22,719
accurate on medical material and uh on

2704
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:23,679
that one he mentions

2705
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:25,920
help put off so we can assume that help

2706
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:27,440
put off with juan

2707
01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:29,119
nolan but we already knew they were

2708
01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:30,480
doing this that we knew they were doing

2709
01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:32,239
this study on military people

2710
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:33,440
and that would indicate that it's

2711
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:34,800
government because they're not using

2712
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:35,760
civilian people

2713
01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:37,199
because you're not you can't get the

2714
01:37:40,229 --> 01:37:38,880
civilian people's medical records

2715
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,239
so they've got the medical records of

2716
01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:42,000
these these military people

2717
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,520
and they're doing this study and at that

2718
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:45,760
point they had 50 when that study

2719
01:37:49,910 --> 01:37:48,000
when it was done in his book and then

2720
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:49,920
later on kit green talked about having

2721
01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:50,880
over a hundred

2722
01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:54,000
now to do the uh

2723
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:56,480
dna and to do brain scans you need some

2724
01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,320
money somebody's paying for this

2725
01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:00,560
and so the the assumption that you get

2726
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:02,639
from this is that there's a government

2727
01:38:06,229 --> 01:38:03,520
contract

2728
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:06,239
to look at uh injuries of military

2729
01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,159
people who've been very close to ufos

2730
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:10,080
and they're looking at this dna thing to

2731
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:12,000
see how do people who are experiences

2732
01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:13,520
how are they able to make contact like

2733
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:14,480
with chris bledsoe

2734
01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:16,239
how is this guy able to make this

2735
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:17,760
contact what what's different in his

2736
01:38:19,669 --> 01:38:18,320
brain

2737
01:38:21,669 --> 01:38:19,679
from anybody else but somebody's paying

2738
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:21,679
for this this is a lot of money and so

2739
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:23,600
bill bigelow wouldn't be putting up the

2740
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:24,719
money bigelow would be running the

2741
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:26,400
contract the same as the

2742
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:28,159
the the whole asop thing and that's the

2743
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:29,440
other thing that we're missing on this

2744
01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:30,639
whole program

2745
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:33,840
is where's the aesop report because

2746
01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:36,080
we're talking atip but we know that atip

2747
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:37,199
was only a small

2748
01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:40,560
portion of the whole asop program which

2749
01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:40,800
is

2750
01:38:44,229 --> 01:38:42,960
22 million dollars and that it was a

2751
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,239
title 10 thing

2752
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:46,239
where they could only look at military

2753
01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:47,920
people so the whole

2754
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:51,119
basic thing started not with ufos it

2755
01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:53,679
started with skinwalker ranch that was

2756
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:54,800
the main program

2757
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:56,320
and that was where you see the famous

2758
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:57,600
slide 9 where they're saying oh there's

2759
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:59,199
a threat look at the slide 9

2760
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:01,119
this thing about going through metal and

2761
01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:02,719
interfering with people's brains

2762
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,960
that's all skin walker rent so where's

2763
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:06,639
the skinwalker ranch report

2764
01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:08,960
more importantly where's the report that

2765
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:10,560
where they requested funding from

2766
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:11,679
skinwalker ranch

2767
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:12,560
because what they were doing at

2768
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:14,000
skinwalker ranch is they were trying to

2769
01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:14,800
figure out

2770
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:16,480
how does the woman come in put her

2771
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:18,159
groceries in in a round

2772
01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:19,440
and then come back and the groceries are

2773
01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:21,760
all back in the bag how do they

2774
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:23,760
mutilate cattle how did they get the

2775
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:25,040
bulls in the trailer that's the thing

2776
01:39:28,709 --> 01:39:26,800
about they talk in the slide nine

2777
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:28,719
about this threat that they can go

2778
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:30,400
through metal well that was the bulls

2779
01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:31,119
the guy

2780
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:32,639
they were messing with all the stuff on

2781
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:34,400
the ranch with this stuff

2782
01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:36,239
and and so he said well i hope they

2783
01:39:39,590 --> 01:39:37,760
don't mess with my bowls he had these

2784
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:39,600
four prize bowls and he goes running out

2785
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:40,800
and they're missing in the corral and he

2786
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:41,199
goes

2787
01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:42,560
oh my god they got my balls what am i

2788
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:44,000
going to do and he looks around he sees

2789
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:44,880
this trailer

2790
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:46,800
that's locked he said i wonder if they

2791
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:48,000
put him in the trailer and he opens up

2792
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:49,840
the trailer and these bulls are stacked

2793
01:39:52,790 --> 01:39:50,960
into this trailer

2794
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,800
that's what defense intelligence was

2795
01:39:57,109 --> 01:39:55,119
looking at is like how do they do this

2796
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:57,119
or when they have the the bigelow when

2797
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:59,199
bigelow says if you remember the story

2798
01:40:02,470 --> 01:40:01,440
these these guys these special forces

2799
01:40:05,590 --> 01:40:02,480
guys are armed

2800
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:05,600
and and nap had said

2801
01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:06,960
the people that were the most aggressive

2802
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:08,159
to the phenomena had the worst

2803
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:09,679
experiences so these guys are walking

2804
01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:10,239
down there

2805
01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:11,360
and they get stopped you remember the

2806
01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:13,040
story they get stalked and ned's voice

2807
01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:14,400
comes in their head and said

2808
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:16,880
leave you are not welcome and it's like

2809
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:17,840
we own this place

2810
01:40:20,870 --> 01:40:19,199
we're here first and we own the

2811
01:40:22,629 --> 01:40:20,880
aerospace we own everything get

2812
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:22,639
heck out of here and these guys go home

2813
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:24,480
and and the thing the hitchhiker follows

2814
01:40:26,310 --> 01:40:24,960
them home

2815
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:26,320
and they have these wine bottles flying

2816
01:40:29,350 --> 01:40:27,760
around and all their their roommates

2817
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:29,360
move out and they're just terrorized

2818
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:31,280
these special forces guys and bigelow

2819
01:40:32,950 --> 01:40:31,760
says

2820
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:32,960
when i saw what they did to the

2821
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:34,800
government guys i knew it was time to

2822
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:36,719
sell the ranch and that's the thing

2823
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:38,400
that's that's slide nine that's what

2824
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:39,119
they're looking at

2825
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,560
someone's head and that's the part that

2826
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:43,920
scares me this threat thing

2827
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:46,000
because i can tell you an example one of

2828
01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:47,280
the things i got in the download

2829
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:49,040
experience in 2012 that told me was

2830
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:51,119
consciousness was a line out of a top

2831
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:52,719
secret canadian government document

2832
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:54,239
all these things i had known already but

2833
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,840
what it did was put three pieces of a

2834
01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:57,440
puzzle together in my head and it was

2835
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:58,560
like this is how it works and i was like

2836
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:59,440
oh yes

2837
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:01,440
it all fit all the pieces fit together

2838
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:03,440
the one line was the famous top secret

2839
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:05,119
memo that was written by wilbert smith

2840
01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:06,800
so wilbur smith was the top government

2841
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:08,800
work guy working on flying saucers

2842
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:10,480
from 50 to 54. he goes down to the

2843
01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:12,080
united states he's got a very high

2844
01:41:15,990 --> 01:41:14,239
security clearance because he's running

2845
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:16,000
radio ottawa he's basically running and

2846
01:41:18,149 --> 01:41:17,679
intercepting russian communications and

2847
01:41:19,669 --> 01:41:18,159
stuff

2848
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:19,679
he goes down the united states he talks

2849
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:21,440
to what he calls american officials

2850
01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:22,800
and he's told the following things he

2851
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:24,880
puts it in a top secret memo writes back

2852
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:25,199
to

2853
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:29,119
american officials flying saucers exist

2854
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:30,560
it's the most highly classified subject

2855
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:32,560
in the united states there's a small

2856
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:34,239
group headed by dr van over bush you're

2857
01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:36,159
trying to figure out the modus operandi

2858
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:37,600
it's of tremendous significance to the

2859
01:41:40,470 --> 01:41:39,360
americans and then the key line that

2860
01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:40,480
came into my head

2861
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:41,920
during that download experience and we

2862
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,760
were also told by american officials

2863
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:45,199
that other things might be associated

2864
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:47,199
with the flying saucers such as mental

2865
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:47,840
phenomena

2866
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,440
and the americans aren't doing very well

2867
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:50,880
because they said if we're working on it

2868
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:52,560
they're willing to exchange credentials

2869
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:54,320
and talk to us that's exactly what's in

2870
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:55,840
slide 9 this idea of getting in

2871
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:56,800
someone's head

2872
01:42:01,109 --> 01:41:59,360
so what happens in 1950 one of the

2873
01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:01,119
things if you see in the memo

2874
01:42:04,149 --> 01:42:02,960
it's written to the top guy in the

2875
01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:04,159
defense department was

2876
01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:06,800
dr oman salant he ran the defense

2877
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:08,480
research board in canada where they did

2878
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:08,960
the

2879
01:42:27,430 --> 01:42:25,280
smith was reporting

2880
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:27,440
to him he was reporting to the defense

2881
01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:28,560
uh to the

2882
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:30,159
department of transport he worked for

2883
01:42:33,590 --> 01:42:32,080
but it was the defense research board

2884
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:33,600
that gave him the property for the

2885
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:35,199
flying saucer observatory and stuff

2886
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:37,760
so oman slant was involved so they talk

2887
01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:40,000
about this mental phenomena is involved

2888
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:41,520
and the question is how do the americans

2889
01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:43,840
know in 1950 because adamski didn't come

2890
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:45,360
forward and said aliens were telepathic

2891
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:46,560
until 1952.

2892
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,560
how did they know that that that there

2893
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:50,239
was this telepathy thing this

2894
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,600
this mental phenomena what you see is

2895
01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:55,679
ten months later there's a meeting at

2896
01:43:00,790 --> 01:42:56,719
the carlton hotel

2897
01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:00,800
in montreal oman oman slant is there

2898
01:43:03,910 --> 01:43:02,320
so is tizzard from the great britain

2899
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:03,920
there's three people from the cia and a

2900
01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:05,199
couple other people from canada

2901
01:43:08,229 --> 01:43:07,199
and that's what they stole start what

2902
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:08,239
you may have heard

2903
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:11,280
called mk ultra that's where it started

2904
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,639
it was the whole idea they knew

2905
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:14,400
consciousness was involved and they

2906
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:16,560
wanted to untap consciousness and they

2907
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:18,080
started all these experiments trying to

2908
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:19,199
get into consciousness

2909
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:20,639
that's what scares me because that's

2910
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:22,400
part of the the report

2911
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:24,560
from that we haven't seen from aesop

2912
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:26,080
from the skinwalker ranch

2913
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:28,159
thing is all this stuff what have they

2914
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:29,920
proposed have they proposed some sort of

2915
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:32,000
idea that we can get into people's heads

2916
01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:33,199
and all this kind of stuff that's the

2917
01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:35,600
kind of stuff that scares me is the

2918
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:38,159
the the thing that this more than ufos

2919
01:43:41,350 --> 01:43:39,760
it's this paranormal phenomena

2920
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:41,360
that is the main program that they're

2921
01:43:45,109 --> 01:43:43,440
working on the atip thing was only i

2922
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,119
maintain a small portion of the whole

2923
01:43:47,510 --> 01:43:46,800
thing and lou alessandro had nothing to

2924
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:47,520
do with that

2925
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:50,080
that was a something that they used to

2926
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:51,040
bring into the

2927
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:53,840
congressional um uh briefing thing to

2928
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:55,199
scare the daylights you know if the

2929
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:56,639
russians get this so the chinese get

2930
01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:58,080
this where they can get into your head

2931
01:44:00,870 --> 01:43:59,440
they can put the stuff through metal and

2932
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,880
stuff that all came from the

2933
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:02,400
investigation skinwalker ranch and we

2934
01:44:04,709 --> 01:44:03,679
don't have that investigation we don't

2935
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:04,719
have that report either

2936
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:06,239
that's what we need to see is what did

2937
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:07,520
they find out about this paranormal

2938
01:44:12,229 --> 01:44:09,280
phenomena at skinwalker ranch

2939
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:12,239
what do you make of uh these emails

2940
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:12,960
between

2941
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:15,520
uh bob fish you know he's an i.t

2942
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:17,360
contractor with the government

2943
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:21,040
and and podesta that were just released

2944
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:22,480
have you had a chance to take a look at

2945
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:24,239
those emails well i did i did

2946
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,880
i'm i did all the i did maybe five or

2947
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:28,400
six powerpoints during that time where i

2948
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:30,080
went through all the

2949
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:32,800
uh wikileaks emails um yeah there was

2950
01:44:34,629 --> 01:44:33,119
some

2951
01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:34,639
important people talking i mean edgar

2952
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:36,239
mitchell was involved people don't know

2953
01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:37,520
that that they were setting up a meeting

2954
01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:39,600
with podesta with edgar mitchell

2955
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:42,159
um the wikileaks emails is what changed

2956
01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:43,119
the whole thing

2957
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:46,159
because what i was told in 2016

2958
01:44:49,510 --> 01:44:47,520
and that's why i say this you've got to

2959
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:49,520
go back and and even semi-van has said

2960
01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:49,840
this

2961
01:44:53,750 --> 01:44:51,199
you got to go back to that interview you

2962
01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:53,760
did in 2016 with tom delong

2963
01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:55,199
and you have to realize this thing

2964
01:44:57,590 --> 01:44:56,480
started with hillary clinton people are

2965
01:45:00,149 --> 01:44:57,600
going to be really upset

2966
01:45:01,750 --> 01:45:00,159
this is hillary clinton and and podesta

2967
01:45:03,750 --> 01:45:01,760
that pulled this whole thing off

2968
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:03,760
they're the ones that got it going and

2969
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:05,920
obama just greenlighted it he's got to

2970
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:07,520
stay away you can't touch it that's what

2971
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:08,480
bill clinton said

2972
01:45:11,990 --> 01:45:10,560
it's the arkansas tower baby you cannot

2973
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:12,000
touch the story you get stuck to it you

2974
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:13,040
can't get away from it

2975
01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:14,320
so the president will work in the

2976
01:45:17,350 --> 01:45:15,840
background he'll just sort of nod and

2977
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:17,360
wink and say okay go ahead with it

2978
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:19,040
whatever but the president can never be

2979
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,480
a player in the whole game

2980
01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:22,320
so what you see in the in the wikileaks

2981
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:24,159
emails when they dropped

2982
01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:26,239
is all these things especially like this

2983
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:27,840
this memo that's written by this

2984
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:29,679
three-star general on what to do once

2985
01:45:32,950 --> 01:45:30,960
disclosure comes

2986
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:32,960
and and the whole fact and that's what i

2987
01:45:35,109 --> 01:45:34,480
say the other thing there's so many

2988
01:45:36,629 --> 01:45:35,119
things

2989
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,639
that people are just sort of following

2990
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:38,800
the narrative they're taking us down

2991
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:40,480
one little tiny road that they want to

2992
01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:41,920
lead us okay what happened

2993
01:45:46,629 --> 01:45:44,400
i wrote a book called managing magic

2994
01:45:48,070 --> 01:45:46,639
which was released in february of 2017

2995
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:48,080
where i basically describe

2996
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:50,239
exactly what's happening now i was told

2997
01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:52,800
in 2016 by two different people

2998
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:54,320
there are a number of high-level

2999
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:56,560
officials who are going to go public and

3000
01:45:59,669 --> 01:45:57,679
they are going to say

3001
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:59,679
ufos exist and then they are going to

3002
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:01,520
force disclosure and then suddenly louis

3003
01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:02,719
alexander came forward

3004
01:46:05,990 --> 01:46:05,440
and mellon came forward and justice came

3005
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:06,000
forward

3006
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:08,400
exactly what happened they were going to

3007
01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:09,600
put jim semivan

3008
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:12,320
on 60 minutes in 2016. this thing was

3009
01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:13,119
all planned

3010
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:15,119
and what happened was that the whole

3011
01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:16,480
thing fell apart because

3012
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:19,360
john podesta's emails got leaked i say

3013
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:19,760
to

3014
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:23,119
right now is jim's

3015
01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:25,360
semi-van has said there's they're told

3016
01:46:29,510 --> 01:46:27,040
unless there's over 50 people

3017
01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:29,520
so we think well the stars was shut down

3018
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:30,960
there was all sorts of people into what

3019
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:32,320
they called the cosmic club

3020
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:34,000
that were involved so what happened to

3021
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:35,600
what i call the three the

3022
01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:37,840
the three kings there was there was

3023
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:39,600
robert weiss from lockheed skunk works

3024
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:40,719
who was involved

3025
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:43,119
there was uh mckay who was a two-star

3026
01:46:45,430 --> 01:46:44,560
and then he became a one-star general he

3027
01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:45,440
got drunk in

3028
01:46:51,189 --> 01:46:49,040
in in in uh um russia and he got got

3029
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:51,199
demoted by obama and lost the star

3030
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:53,119
and then you had mccaslin a two-star

3031
01:46:56,550 --> 01:46:54,880
general where did these three guys go

3032
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:56,560
they were exposed in the wikileaks

3033
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:58,400
emails as being involved in this whole

3034
01:47:01,270 --> 01:46:58,800
thing

3035
01:47:03,270 --> 01:47:01,280
and it was like game over but did they

3036
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:03,280
leave or are they still involved in this

3037
01:47:06,070 --> 01:47:04,719
disclosure effort

3038
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:06,080
just because we haven't heard from them

3039
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:08,080
before are they still part of this team

3040
01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:10,320
and it it the whole thing was it was all

3041
01:47:12,629 --> 01:47:11,199
planned

3042
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:12,639
and you probably know this that was

3043
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:13,840
planned that they were going to drop

3044
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:15,280
this thing with hillary clinton

3045
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:16,719
i was told this that they were going to

3046
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:18,400
die are they going to drop this thing is

3047
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:19,280
it going to happen

3048
01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:20,800
and then as soon as hillary lost the

3049
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:22,159
election i immediately phoned the people

3050
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:23,119
that were involved

3051
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:24,400
tom delong said it didn't have people

3052
01:47:27,350 --> 01:47:26,080
inside his his camp i did have people

3053
01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:27,360
inside his camp that's how i knew what

3054
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:28,080
was going on

3055
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:29,600
and i went to the people that i knew and

3056
01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:31,520
i said hey so what happened hillary lost

3057
01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:32,960
are we are we still going with the

3058
01:47:34,709 --> 01:47:34,159
disclosure are we still going to drop

3059
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:34,719
this thing

3060
01:47:38,390 --> 01:47:36,639
and they said yeah it's bigger than ever

3061
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:38,400
but they had to redo the thing

3062
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:41,360
because these three guys weiss and mckay

3063
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:41,600
and

3064
01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:44,960
there they had to go into the back into

3065
01:47:48,229 --> 01:47:46,400
the closet with the clothes

3066
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:48,239
and then they brought in louis alexander

3067
01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:51,119
and melon and all these guys in 2017

3068
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:52,320
but it took them a while to put that

3069
01:47:55,990 --> 01:47:54,400
thing together then to the star starts

3070
01:47:58,790 --> 01:47:56,000
and this thing starts to unravel

3071
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:58,800
this thing has been planned since 2015

3072
01:48:03,430 --> 01:48:00,560
and it was described to me and i have it

3073
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:03,440
in this book in 2017 in february

3074
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:06,480
i identified jim semivan a year before

3075
01:48:09,510 --> 01:48:07,840
he goes public

3076
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:09,520
i was told all this kind of stuff it's

3077
01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:10,880
exactly what's happened

3078
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:12,960
so i'm really not surprised by any of

3079
01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:15,440
this guys podesta was a key figure

3080
01:48:18,709 --> 01:48:18,239
and now you know james fox is talking to

3081
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:18,719
him

3082
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,639
and pedesta is saying that he's talking

3083
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:22,400
to biden and that's what you need you

3084
01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:22,880
need the

3085
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:24,480
the approval of the president to put

3086
01:48:28,870 --> 01:48:26,639
pressure on these different agencies

3087
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:28,880
to open this thing up and even though i

3088
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:29,679
i

3089
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,360
where he gets confronted when uh you

3090
01:48:40,149 --> 01:48:37,679
remember that um

3091
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:40,159
obama was asked the ufo question at a

3092
01:48:44,229 --> 01:48:42,159
thing in philadelphia in 2007

3093
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:44,239
and that's where kucinich campaign just

3094
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:45,199
totally blew up

3095
01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:46,400
when suddenly they asked him the

3096
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:47,679
question do you ever hear a voice in

3097
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:48,320
your head with

3098
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:49,840
at shirley maclaine's house and you saw

3099
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:51,600
this ufo and whatever and he tried to

3100
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:52,719
defend himself and that was the end of

3101
01:48:56,950 --> 01:48:54,080
his presidential run

3102
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:56,960
but at the end of that thing they biden

3103
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:58,639
was running then and they asked biden

3104
01:49:02,229 --> 01:49:00,880
and he said like wow come on come on man

3105
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:02,239
like where's this thing going like i

3106
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:02,560
mean

3107
01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:04,400
like he was just defiant that this was

3108
01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:05,600
total crazy stuff

3109
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:07,520
but i think biden will go along with it

3110
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:08,800
because podesta is going to be pushing

3111
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:09,440
him

3112
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:11,760
give approval don't look the other way

3113
01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:13,520
and so when he walked off the stage that

3114
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:14,000
didn't surprise

3115
01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,360
me at all with the obama thing he just

3116
01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:17,119
said go ask obama again

3117
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:19,040
is is that it's the the president can't

3118
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:21,119
touch the issue but in behind the scenes

3119
01:49:23,910 --> 01:49:22,320
like jimmy carter

3120
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:23,920
you can do a lot of stuff jimmy carter

3121
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:25,280
was doing all sorts of stuff he sent his

3122
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:27,119
press secretary to the fbi people don't

3123
01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:29,520
know that to put pressure on the fbi to

3124
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:32,320
bring 1500 documents in an foia he had a

3125
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:33,280
lawyer inside the

3126
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:36,000
the cia that's woman broke down crying

3127
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:37,520
because the cia guys were hiding

3128
01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:39,280
documents and stuff there was an foia

3129
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:40,639
and she was to try to get them to get

3130
01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:41,679
all these documents

3131
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:43,280
the president can do a lot of stuff he

3132
01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:44,960
can't do it openly you can do it behind

3133
01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:45,920
the scenes

3134
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,960
and so i i'm pretty optimistic that uh

3135
01:49:52,070 --> 01:49:50,639
there's pressure in behind the scenes so

3136
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:52,080
you have biden on one side

3137
01:49:54,950 --> 01:49:53,520
and you have danny sheehan on the other

3138
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,960
side and i think you're going to see a

3139
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:56,159
lot of stuff unravel

3140
01:49:59,350 --> 01:49:57,360
but it's not going to happen the way

3141
01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:59,360
people have but the the worst part is

3142
01:50:01,910 --> 01:50:01,119
this threat thing and moving us down

3143
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:01,920
this one

3144
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:05,440
tiny road let's ignore the the um

3145
01:50:08,709 --> 01:50:07,679
the other the inter-dimensional thing

3146
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:08,719
let's ignore

3147
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:10,880
the aesop report that's and everybody

3148
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,440
gets so focused on wanting to be told

3149
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:15,920
that et's exist that they sort of miss

3150
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:16,480
the

3151
01:50:21,910 --> 01:50:20,000
this is much bigger story

3152
01:50:23,669 --> 01:50:21,920
there's much more things that that are

3153
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:23,679
that are important to be known about

3154
01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:25,840
uh what has happened and and what this

3155
01:50:30,229 --> 01:50:26,719
all means

3156
01:50:33,430 --> 01:50:30,239
well back in uh 2 2016

3157
01:50:34,709 --> 01:50:33,440
right after uh the roosevelt stuff is

3158
01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:34,719
going on

3159
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,159
um off of the east coast in florida bob

3160
01:50:41,589 --> 01:50:40,480
fish has this email exchange with

3161
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:41,599
podesta

3162
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:44,000
and and he writes this and i'm quoting

3163
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:44,960
it says quote

3164
01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:48,400
i had lunch with a senior ua usaf

3165
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,440
uh nco uh that worked

3166
01:50:56,030 --> 01:50:54,000
uh he was an eland uh technician

3167
01:50:59,510 --> 01:50:56,040
electronic intelligence who flew

3168
01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:59,520
rc-135s from mcdill air force base in

3169
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,400
florida

3170
01:51:05,109 --> 01:51:02,800
the normal target was cuba where they

3171
01:51:06,950 --> 01:51:05,119
did lots of snooping and sometimes

3172
01:51:08,629 --> 01:51:06,960
challenging the cubans to turn on their

3173
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:08,639
radar and other systems

3174
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:11,040
then he continues this is with podesta

3175
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:12,000
he says

3176
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:13,760
he said there were times when they were

3177
01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:16,000
diverted from these missions to track

3178
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:17,840
ufos off the east

3179
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:21,440
coast of florida his claim was the ufos

3180
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:21,760
had

3181
01:51:28,390 --> 01:51:25,040
a landing and takeoff spot in the ocean

3182
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,400
east of miami north of bermuda

3183
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:30,639
he also claimed that there were specific

3184
01:51:35,830 --> 01:51:32,880
electronic signature frequency

3185
01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:35,840
emanating from them when they were going

3186
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:38,400
into or coming out of the water

3187
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:41,599
so they were easy to track on several

3188
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:42,400
occasions

3189
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:46,560
they filmed the ufo as it transitioned

3190
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:49,760
from water to air or vice versa

3191
01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:52,880
end quote and this is this is before the

3192
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:53,920
roosevelt

3193
01:51:58,149 --> 01:51:56,159
revelations you know came to light this

3194
01:52:00,830 --> 01:51:58,159
was 2016

3195
01:52:02,229 --> 01:52:00,840
back when uh you were just mentioning

3196
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:02,239
2016

3197
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:04,800
was a pretty key year and this is an

3198
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:07,199
amazing email exchange

3199
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:10,400
with podesta yeah well

3200
01:52:13,589 --> 01:52:11,920
there's going to be a lot of citing

3201
01:52:16,149 --> 01:52:13,599
stuff where we're going to find out

3202
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:16,159
they've they've been tracking this stuff

3203
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:18,320
i'm doing a i've got a podcast now

3204
01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:19,199
called

3205
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,520
paranormal ufo consciousness podcast i'm

3206
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:23,119
doing a whole thing on nukes and i start

3207
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:24,239
looking at all the

3208
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:27,599
the nuclear things and we knew now from

3209
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,760
the the first test of the hydrogen bomb

3210
01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:31,040
the ivy thing

3211
01:52:34,709 --> 01:52:32,800
that people were told the uf look for

3212
01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:34,719
ufos in the pacific when they detonated

3213
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,360
this bomb

3214
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:37,440
the same thing happened um if you

3215
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:39,040
remember the the

3216
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:41,280
worst radioactive contamination ever

3217
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:42,239
took place was

3218
01:52:45,669 --> 01:52:44,080
the castle bravo test that took place

3219
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:45,679
march the first 1954

3220
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:47,840
was a couple days before that eisenhower

3221
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:49,360
was at edwards air force base only a

3222
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:50,480
couple days before

3223
01:52:53,990 --> 01:52:53,040
and they were also told to look for ufos

3224
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:54,000
and both of them

3225
01:52:57,990 --> 01:52:55,840
according to hastings had ufo sightings

3226
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:58,000
around them so we've we've sort of known

3227
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:58,639
this stuff

3228
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:00,560
but again you're going to just the thing

3229
01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:02,560
about yeah ufos exist okay get over it's

3230
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:02,960
like

3231
01:53:06,629 --> 01:53:05,199
jack ballet said about nimitz it's a ufo

3232
01:53:07,109 --> 01:53:06,639
sighting 15 years ago it's time to get

3233
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:07,119
over it

3234
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:09,679
and so yeah ufos exist but if you get

3235
01:53:11,830 --> 01:53:10,639
into the thing where

3236
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:11,840
you have a congressional hearing and you

3237
01:53:16,149 --> 01:53:13,760
put jim semivan up there and said

3238
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:16,159
you had the beings in your room let's go

3239
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:17,520
through there or gary nolan's

3240
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:18,639
inexperiencer

3241
01:53:23,030 --> 01:53:21,119
or um you know bring up hell put off son

3242
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:23,040
who had a giant triangle

3243
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:25,760
uh fly over him in in phoenix arizona

3244
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:27,280
you start getting these kind of stories

3245
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:28,560
of experiencers

3246
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:30,719
and how many people have have have had

3247
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:31,920
these experiences

3248
01:53:35,189 --> 01:53:34,080
that are high-level people and get to

3249
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:35,199
the the idea

3250
01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:37,440
beyond the ufos what's going on who are

3251
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:39,280
they and what's the message they're god

3252
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,360
and have we had interactions with these

3253
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:43,360
these intelligence the canadians had uh

3254
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:44,320
interactions

3255
01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:46,960
or the the whole thing of the the cia

3256
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:48,239
channel an alien

3257
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:50,560
in 1959 at the national photographic

3258
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:51,840
interpretation center

3259
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:54,719
in washington dc these kind of stories

3260
01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:56,880
where we get beyond the fact that ufos

3261
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:57,360
exist

3262
01:54:01,189 --> 01:53:59,679
and we get into this this whole thing of

3263
01:54:03,109 --> 01:54:01,199
what does the government really know

3264
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:03,119
about what we're dealing with here and

3265
01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:04,320
what's the importance and what's the

3266
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:05,119
message

3267
01:54:09,669 --> 01:54:08,000
so yeah i'm sure they've got piles and

3268
01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:09,679
piles and piles of material

3269
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:12,000
and uh you know because what's his name

3270
01:54:14,149 --> 01:54:13,280
they used to do with the satellites

3271
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:14,159
where they had the

3272
01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:15,440
study of the satellites they were

3273
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:17,280
picking up these satellites uh we're

3274
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:18,800
picking up objects these

3275
01:54:21,910 --> 01:54:20,800
above stuff so they've got all that

3276
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:21,920
that's all going to be classified

3277
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:23,199
because it's all systems and methods

3278
01:54:26,709 --> 01:54:24,400
they're not going to tell you

3279
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:26,719
how they are tracking this kind of stuff

3280
01:54:32,709 --> 01:54:28,800
but when you when you get the report

3281
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:32,719
and you get six pages out of 400 pages

3282
01:54:36,229 --> 01:54:35,199
that's base that's basically 1.5 percent

3283
01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:36,239
of the report

3284
01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:37,920
i mean if you're only going to get 1.5

3285
01:54:41,109 --> 01:54:39,440
percent of everything they've got

3286
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:41,119
i mean it's a total waste of time i mean

3287
01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:42,719
everything's still classified that's my

3288
01:54:45,589 --> 01:54:44,000
biggest concern

3289
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:45,599
is that we're not being told anything

3290
01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:47,280
we're just we're just saying we're going

3291
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:48,639
to go rah-rah-rah

3292
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:51,040
go ufo twitter put pressure on the

3293
01:54:53,669 --> 01:54:51,760
government

3294
01:54:54,629 --> 01:54:53,679
and it's the old idea that all these

3295
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:54,639
guys are going to walk away with

3296
01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:56,400
suitcases full of money but unless they

3297
01:54:59,750 --> 01:54:56,800
do

3298
01:55:01,750 --> 01:54:59,760
open research that helps the people who

3299
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:01,760
cares if the black ops gets more money

3300
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:02,080
to

3301
01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:05,440
i could care less

3302
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:08,400
that's my big fear is that that it's not

3303
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:10,080
being open if you get six pages out of

3304
01:55:12,709 --> 01:55:11,360
400 pages

3305
01:55:14,629 --> 01:55:12,719
that that are released and they

3306
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:14,639
basically have as

3307
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,400
danny sheen called a nothing burger in

3308
01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:18,000
them can we get

3309
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:20,320
past that to get past this

3310
01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:21,760
non-disclosure agreement

3311
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:24,320
secrecy thing where now we're you we

3312
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:25,679
don't even know what they briefed the

3313
01:55:27,589 --> 01:55:26,400
congress on

3314
01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:27,599
you say oh yeah they were brief what did

3315
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:29,360
they brief on what was the thing oh we

3316
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:30,400
can't tell you secret

3317
01:55:33,669 --> 01:55:32,800
it's like it's the same thing nothing's

3318
01:55:36,870 --> 01:55:33,679
changed

3319
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:36,880
yeah he's uh he says

3320
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:39,360
in these emails he says kitten dooley

3321
01:55:42,070 --> 01:55:40,400
kit green

3322
01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:42,080
kit and dooley have access to

3323
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:44,159
reconnaissance satellite data

3324
01:55:48,709 --> 01:55:46,080
they can now check for the presence of

3325
01:55:51,589 --> 01:55:48,719
objects within 10 days of a sighting

3326
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:51,599
the satellites of vila 10 type have

3327
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:53,040
repeatedly caught what

3328
01:55:58,390 --> 01:55:56,080
experts call fast walkers erratic

3329
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:58,400
sources of energy these may represent

3330
01:56:01,830 --> 01:55:59,119
previously

3331
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:01,840
unknown electrical phenomena or perhaps

3332
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:02,960
ufos

3333
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:05,520
he says my clearance is still active so

3334
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:07,440
i could see the images

3335
01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:10,480
if the need arises and he goes on to say

3336
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:13,199
that these satellites are picking up

3337
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:13,840
stuff

3338
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:16,639
from behind them right there they are

3339
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:18,000
now tracking stuff

3340
01:56:24,070 --> 01:56:21,360
entering our uh star system

3341
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:24,080
and this is this is very interesting

3342
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:24,480
that

3343
01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:28,719
uh um uh bob fish says in this email

3344
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:29,840
exchange

3345
01:56:33,589 --> 01:56:32,159
that they are tracking stuff

3346
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:33,599
interstellar

3347
01:56:37,589 --> 01:56:36,080
coming to earth and they are doing this

3348
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:37,599
constantly now

3349
01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:40,800
and this is for for the uaptf

3350
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:43,360
report to say we know nothing well we

3351
01:56:46,390 --> 01:56:44,080
know that that

3352
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:46,400
clearly is not the case but again it

3353
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:48,320
comes down to do they know it's et

3354
01:56:51,669 --> 01:56:50,080
i mean do they do they know that this is

3355
01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:51,679
interstellar it's coming from somewhere

3356
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:52,080
yeah

3357
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:54,639
coming from somewhere that's where you

3358
01:56:57,910 --> 01:56:56,080
if you get into this kit green

3359
01:56:59,189 --> 01:56:57,920
tape that leaked then kit green says

3360
01:57:00,790 --> 01:56:59,199
okay who are we dealing with okay i

3361
01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:00,800
can't exactly give you the exact lines

3362
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:01,840
but he said who are we dealing with

3363
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:03,920
and and the woman this intuitive that

3364
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:05,360
they've been using

3365
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:08,239
uh says there's a fourth dimensional uh

3366
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:08,960
portal

3367
01:57:12,229 --> 01:57:11,040
off catalina island that's where nimitz

3368
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:12,239
happened there's a fourth dimensional

3369
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:12,880
portal

3370
01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:16,000
and there's a uh an interaction

3371
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:17,760
interdimensional and it's there's a

3372
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:19,360
meeting between u.s

3373
01:57:25,270 --> 01:57:22,880
officials and ets

3374
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:25,280
and the kick green's going hang on hang

3375
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:26,719
on let me write that down it's like it's

3376
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:27,520
like

3377
01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:31,040
don't know anything about

3378
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:32,320
interdimensional

3379
01:57:35,750 --> 01:57:34,239
facilities or something he says and you

3380
01:57:37,990 --> 01:57:35,760
hear this stuff and you go like

3381
01:57:39,350 --> 01:57:38,000
oh my they're way out of where we think

3382
01:57:40,629 --> 01:57:39,360
they are in terms of

3383
01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:40,639
especially with the interdimensional

3384
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:42,239
portal stuff because that's always been

3385
01:57:45,669 --> 01:57:43,280
the thing that i have

3386
01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:45,679
where i got ron pandolfi on camera where

3387
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:47,280
he's he's talking on this cruise ship

3388
01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:48,880
where his wife asked him what do you say

3389
01:57:52,790 --> 01:57:51,440
foot man and he said people have always

3390
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:52,800
wondered what it's like to go

3391
01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:54,880
into the next world the next time john

3392
01:57:57,030 --> 01:57:56,159
it was his friend sitting beside me we

3393
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:57,040
went to university with

3394
01:58:00,550 --> 01:57:58,719
next time john goes to the desert a

3395
01:58:02,149 --> 01:58:00,560
number of us here are going to go into

3396
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:02,159
the next world and come back again

3397
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:04,239
and i got this on tape he was furious he

3398
01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:06,080
had posted it somewhere and i grabbed it

3399
01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:07,920
and you get that kind of stuff and

3400
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:09,199
that's where i say when you start

3401
01:58:12,070 --> 01:58:10,480
looking at it i think

3402
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:12,080
to me the way i've looked at it every

3403
01:58:15,589 --> 01:58:13,760
time i run up against something that

3404
01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:15,599
is anti-gravity stuff it always ends up

3405
01:58:19,189 --> 01:58:17,920
in a dead heap or not there's nothing to

3406
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:19,199
it but every time you go after the

3407
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:21,040
portal thing there seems to be something

3408
01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:21,520
to it

3409
01:58:25,030 --> 01:58:24,480
i even had a an encounter with with uh

3410
01:58:27,430 --> 01:58:25,040
uh

3411
01:58:28,629 --> 01:58:27,440
um tyler d from the american cosmic

3412
01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:28,639
right i met with him and he showed me

3413
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:29,679
his photographs i don't know if you told

3414
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:30,239
the story

3415
01:58:33,750 --> 01:58:32,560
he shows me these photographs he says

3416
01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:33,760
look at this and there's these two guys

3417
01:58:36,790 --> 01:58:35,679
flying through space in these pajamas

3418
01:58:38,870 --> 01:58:36,800
and he says what do you think of this

3419
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:38,880
painting i go i don't know

3420
01:58:41,270 --> 01:58:40,239
it doesn't mean anything to me and he

3421
01:58:42,470 --> 01:58:41,280
shows me another one another one he's

3422
01:58:44,709 --> 01:58:42,480
showing me all these paintings

3423
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:44,719
and he says i said it doesn't mean

3424
01:58:47,109 --> 01:58:45,520
anything to me he said

3425
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:47,119
you know where it is i said no where is

3426
01:58:51,030 --> 01:58:49,199
it said hughes aircraft building in l.a

3427
01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:51,040
i go still doesn't mean anything to me

3428
01:58:54,149 --> 01:58:52,560
and he goes that's what the jump room

3429
01:58:54,709 --> 01:58:54,159
was and i go really let me see that

3430
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:54,719
photograph

3431
01:58:58,390 --> 01:58:57,280
these two guys flying through space and

3432
01:58:59,589 --> 01:58:58,400
he says you know the one with where

3433
01:59:00,390 --> 01:58:59,599
they're flying through space he says you

3434
01:59:02,390 --> 01:59:00,400
know where that is

3435
01:59:03,430 --> 01:59:02,400
and he and then i says no he says right

3436
01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:03,440
outside the elevator

3437
01:59:07,589 --> 01:59:05,760
and then later on i'm thinking to myself

3438
01:59:09,109 --> 01:59:07,599
why did he show me these photographs

3439
01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:09,119
why would he he didn't say it was real

3440
01:59:11,589 --> 01:59:10,400
he didn't say it wasn't real but he

3441
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:11,599
showed me these photographs and i'm

3442
01:59:15,589 --> 01:59:12,560
thinking

3443
01:59:16,709 --> 01:59:15,599
why would tyler d go to the huge

3444
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:16,719
aircraft building and take these

3445
01:59:19,910 --> 01:59:18,560
photographs unless he had got some

3446
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:19,920
indication that this story may have been

3447
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:20,320
true

3448
01:59:23,830 --> 01:59:21,840
and those kind of portal things were

3449
01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:23,840
ongoing wow maybe there's something to

3450
01:59:29,030 --> 01:59:24,159
it

3451
01:59:31,109 --> 01:59:29,040
he shows me these photographs this is

3452
01:59:33,510 --> 01:59:31,119
the top nassau guy this is the guy

3453
01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:33,520
in the cosmic club the invisible college

3454
01:59:36,149 --> 01:59:34,320
he's the

3455
01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:36,159
key guy that's getting these downloads

3456
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:38,639
40 patents and stuff he's the amazingly

3457
01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:39,760
powerful guy

3458
01:59:44,149 --> 01:59:42,400
inside the black world ufo program and

3459
01:59:46,229 --> 01:59:44,159
he's showing me these photographs and

3460
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:46,239
of this jump room thing and i'm going

3461
01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:47,520
wow i mean just

3462
01:59:50,629 --> 01:59:50,000
just weird it's i think it's way beyond

3463
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:50,639
what we

3464
01:59:54,229 --> 01:59:52,639
it's a thousand times more complex than

3465
01:59:56,229 --> 01:59:54,239
people think people want just the

3466
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president to stand up and say et's are

3467
01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:58,000
coming in they got lost and they come in

3468
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here

3469
02:00:01,430 --> 01:59:59,599
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3470
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3580
02:04:40,709 --> 02:04:35,360
why fade to black because you never got

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

3582
02:04:52,540 --> 02:04:45,280
on the game changer radio network

3583
02:05:03,109 --> 02:04:52,550
and kgra the global radio alliance

3584
02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:03,119
[Music]

3585
02:05:06,790 --> 02:05:04,880
welcome back fade to black i am your

3586
02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:06,800
host jimmy church tonight grant cameron

3587
02:05:09,940 --> 02:05:08,320
is with us

3588
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:09,950
tomorrow night debbie cobble

3589
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:11,920
[Music]

3590
02:05:17,750 --> 02:05:15,040
thursday night ross colvard live from

3591
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:17,760
australia tonight it's all about grant

3592
02:05:23,030 --> 02:05:21,280
and grant this is

3593
02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:23,040
i think this is the question that is on

3594
02:05:28,390 --> 02:05:25,599
everybody's mind

3595
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:28,400
the world didn't freak out the world

3596
02:05:31,270 --> 02:05:29,119
didn't

3597
02:05:33,990 --> 02:05:31,280
they were given the chance to freak out

3598
02:05:35,990 --> 02:05:34,000
we had heavy coverage in mass media

3599
02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:36,000
we've got all the reports coming in from

3600
02:05:39,510 --> 02:05:37,280
science and the search for

3601
02:05:40,629 --> 02:05:39,520
extraterrestrial life and fast radio

3602
02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:40,639
bursts and

3603
02:05:45,910 --> 02:05:44,320
exoplanets we've got aliens all over the

3604
02:05:47,750 --> 02:05:45,920
place right now and now

3605
02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:47,760
the senate intelligence committee the

3606
02:05:52,709 --> 02:05:50,320
uaptf report

3607
02:05:54,629 --> 02:05:52,719
but the world didn't didn't freak out

3608
02:05:57,669 --> 02:05:54,639
why why do you think

3609
02:06:01,350 --> 02:05:57,679
it didn't freak out and are we ready for

3610
02:06:02,229 --> 02:06:01,360
disclosure well it didn't because if you

3611
02:06:05,109 --> 02:06:02,239
look back at the

3612
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:05,119
brookings report and they said if we you

3613
02:06:07,910 --> 02:06:05,840
know if you

3614
02:06:09,589 --> 02:06:07,920
have understand that there may be ets

3615
02:06:12,149 --> 02:06:09,599
you got to climatize the people

3616
02:06:14,830 --> 02:06:12,159
and that's what i say i mean the first

3617
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:14,840
thing was 1956 where

3618
02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:17,760
um uh disney was uh

3619
02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:19,440
forced to do a documentary or it didn't

3620
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:20,400
force but they asked him to do a

3621
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:21,360
documentary

3622
02:06:24,470 --> 02:06:23,520
on ufos he produced it it really didn't

3623
02:06:26,470 --> 02:06:24,480
go anywhere

3624
02:06:27,830 --> 02:06:26,480
they offered him film bob emeniger was

3625
02:06:30,229 --> 02:06:27,840
off film

3626
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:30,239
they've been doing these gradual drops

3627
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:30,960
all the time

3628
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:32,320
but now as i said they're doing it on

3629
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:33,760
steroids i mean i think you were talking

3630
02:06:37,430 --> 02:06:35,280
last night about this this film

3631
02:06:39,189 --> 02:06:37,440
well i hear about this this 34 minute

3632
02:06:42,149 --> 02:06:39,199
film i heard about it

3633
02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:42,159
before they made the report no minutes

3634
02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:43,599
after they made the report i heard about

3635
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:45,599
it and what you've got now is the

3636
02:06:48,790 --> 02:06:48,239
this real heavy leaking where the stuff

3637
02:06:50,709 --> 02:06:48,800
is

3638
02:06:51,990 --> 02:06:50,719
they can't control it and you wonder

3639
02:06:53,669 --> 02:06:52,000
who's doing the leaking and i always

3640
02:06:56,950 --> 02:06:53,679
maintain there's people in there

3641
02:06:59,109 --> 02:06:56,960
like the the original leaked videos

3642
02:07:00,950 --> 02:06:59,119
uh if you look at the the the

3643
02:07:02,629 --> 02:07:00,960
photographs that were released on melon

3644
02:07:04,709 --> 02:07:02,639
site that supposedly

3645
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:04,719
you know got out there they were lee

3646
02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:05,920
left them on the

3647
02:07:09,109 --> 02:07:08,079
whatever that he didn't have it uh the

3648
02:07:10,470 --> 02:07:09,119
password or whatever

3649
02:07:12,709 --> 02:07:10,480
and these things came out if you take a

3650
02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:12,719
look at those videos

3651
02:07:17,350 --> 02:07:15,760
they have the date of september the 8th

3652
02:07:18,790 --> 02:07:17,360
i believe

3653
02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:18,800
tom delong did not have his news

3654
02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:20,400
conference until

3655
02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:22,800
october the 11th and the new york times

3656
02:07:27,430 --> 02:07:24,880
article didn't drop till december 16th

3657
02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:27,440
they had those videos out because they

3658
02:07:30,629 --> 02:07:28,880
have the packaging slip which has louis

3659
02:07:33,669 --> 02:07:30,639
alexander's name on there and and

3660
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:33,679
and melon's name and this uh essex woman

3661
02:07:36,790 --> 02:07:34,480
that was

3662
02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:36,800
was involved and so they had the videos

3663
02:07:39,669 --> 02:07:37,520
out before

3664
02:07:41,270 --> 02:07:39,679
lou alexandro actually retired so this

3665
02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:41,280
is this idea that i always say like how

3666
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:42,560
did they get the videos out

3667
02:07:45,510 --> 02:07:43,840
this is to me is always the most

3668
02:07:46,550 --> 02:07:45,520
interesting part is you have these leaks

3669
02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:46,560
that are coming out

3670
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:48,800
and people are leaking stuff and i don't

3671
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:50,320
i think they're they've people in the

3672
02:07:55,189 --> 02:07:52,400
inside have figured out how to do this

3673
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:55,199
and that's the problem that they have

3674
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:56,560
that is going to

3675
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:59,280
speed this thing up that we have way

3676
02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:00,960
more leaking than we've had

3677
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:03,360
we have all these uh videos and and then

3678
02:08:05,990 --> 02:08:04,719
you have the denial so

3679
02:08:07,750 --> 02:08:06,000
a leak and then it's like well we can't

3680
02:08:08,069 --> 02:08:07,760
talk about that and a little hint about

3681
02:08:09,830 --> 02:08:08,079
this

3682
02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:09,840
or whatever and to me it all just looks

3683
02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:11,440
so sort of uh

3684
02:08:15,109 --> 02:08:13,520
staged that there's uh these people on

3685
02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:15,119
the back that have been pushing this

3686
02:08:18,149 --> 02:08:16,159
stuff out forever

3687
02:08:19,750 --> 02:08:18,159
bill moore had that thing where he

3688
02:08:20,629 --> 02:08:19,760
released the roswell book and within a

3689
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:20,639
couple of days

3690
02:08:23,669 --> 02:08:22,400
he gets a phone call we think from

3691
02:08:25,830 --> 02:08:23,679
richard dodie at

3692
02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:25,840
kirkland he gets a phone call from a guy

3693
02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:27,440
named roland b evans

3694
02:08:34,229 --> 02:08:31,760
at uh um um off at air force base

3695
02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:34,239
and they make this deal where we we're

3696
02:08:36,069 --> 02:08:35,520
for the government we're here to help

3697
02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:36,079
you

3698
02:08:39,189 --> 02:08:37,760
and i think all these people have been

3699
02:08:39,830 --> 02:08:39,199
leaked that they've been leaking this

3700
02:08:42,229 --> 02:08:39,840
stuff

3701
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:42,239
incessantly but always with plausible

3702
02:08:46,390 --> 02:08:44,079
liability so you leak documents

3703
02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:46,400
you leak the mj12 document mj12 is for

3704
02:08:49,750 --> 02:08:48,320
real you leak the document you make some

3705
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:49,760
alterations in the document you've got

3706
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:50,880
plausible liability

3707
02:08:54,229 --> 02:08:53,040
the document is a hoax you put it out

3708
02:08:56,229 --> 02:08:54,239
and that's what you're doing is this

3709
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:56,239
plausible deniability thing where you're

3710
02:08:59,589 --> 02:08:57,760
sticking stuff out that nobody can

3711
02:09:01,910 --> 02:08:59,599
really confirm where it comes from

3712
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:01,920
uh you know how did it get out who had

3713
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:03,119
it and that sort of stuff

3714
02:09:06,310 --> 02:09:04,800
and it just keeps moving up the

3715
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:06,320
acclimatization of people

3716
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,000
where they realize this is real that's

3717
02:09:11,589 --> 02:09:10,159
real that there's bigger videos

3718
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:11,599
even when they first came out there was

3719
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:13,280
a story they had 200 videos i remember

3720
02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:14,079
that and it was like

3721
02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:15,840
when they released the first couple and

3722
02:09:18,629 --> 02:09:17,440
there's all these rumors that they have

3723
02:09:20,950 --> 02:09:18,639
all this material

3724
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:20,960
and what you see now is this real heavy

3725
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:22,320
leaking

3726
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:24,719
where somebody's telling the story

3727
02:09:29,750 --> 02:09:26,719
indirectly through these leaks

3728
02:09:32,870 --> 02:09:29,760
and i think it's it's

3729
02:09:35,990 --> 02:09:32,880
it's very promising but in terms of the

3730
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:36,000
the the real story i i think it's way

3731
02:09:39,109 --> 02:09:36,960
beyond

3732
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:39,119
just confirming that that et's are real

3733
02:09:41,669 --> 02:09:40,400
or the disclosure

3734
02:09:43,589 --> 02:09:41,679
because in the end i mean we've had

3735
02:09:44,229 --> 02:09:43,599
disclosure already according to what i

3736
02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:44,239
have

3737
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:46,320
is that we've been told yes it's for

3738
02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:48,480
real and we don't know what it is

3739
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:50,560
that's what president johnson i read the

3740
02:09:54,310 --> 02:09:52,320
entire eight-page report

3741
02:09:55,430 --> 02:09:54,320
that they had given the final result to

3742
02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:55,440
president johnson

3743
02:09:58,709 --> 02:09:57,440
that's what they said yeah this is

3744
02:10:01,510 --> 02:09:58,719
absolutely for real

3745
02:10:02,470 --> 02:10:01,520
and this was like art londol who was the

3746
02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:02,480
head cia

3747
02:10:07,510 --> 02:10:05,119
guy the head of lockheed skunk works the

3748
02:10:10,470 --> 02:10:07,520
head of nro was on that committee

3749
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:10,480
uh you know a three-star general and

3750
02:10:14,149 --> 02:10:12,159
that's what they concluded yeah this is

3751
02:10:16,149 --> 02:10:14,159
for real but we really don't know uh

3752
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:16,159
what it is because how how do you really

3753
02:10:20,229 --> 02:10:17,760
know where it's coming from

3754
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:20,239
and you get into this idea about is the

3755
02:10:24,149 --> 02:10:20,800
are the

3756
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:24,159
part there was this thing i asked jack

3757
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:25,679
ballet when i had the meeting with him i

3758
02:10:27,750 --> 02:10:26,239
said jack

3759
02:10:29,430 --> 02:10:27,760
doesn't make any sense i mean because he

3760
02:10:30,629 --> 02:10:29,440
was talking about the 45 crash i mean

3761
02:10:31,589 --> 02:10:30,639
they come across the galaxy and then

3762
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:31,599
they crash

3763
02:10:35,030 --> 02:10:33,040
and then they're dropping metal like

3764
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:35,040
they they the thing flies across the

3765
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:36,400
galaxy and suddenly the pieces are

3766
02:10:39,589 --> 02:10:37,520
falling off the craft

3767
02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:39,599
i said jack this doesn't make any sense

3768
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:41,440
this makes it look like a ports like

3769
02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:42,880
they're like what happened in

3770
02:10:48,310 --> 02:10:46,000
in the uh the lab at sri during the

3771
02:10:50,149 --> 02:10:48,320
the days of the uh studying yuri geller

3772
02:10:51,189 --> 02:10:50,159
where all this metal stuff was falling

3773
02:10:52,629 --> 02:10:51,199
inside the lab

3774
02:10:54,310 --> 02:10:52,639
and i said it looks like they're

3775
02:10:55,990 --> 02:10:54,320
dropping this stuff and and it's a

3776
02:10:58,069 --> 02:10:56,000
gifting thing and that's what tyler

3777
02:10:59,669 --> 02:10:58,079
d had said the same guy that showed me

3778
02:11:01,990 --> 02:10:59,679
the photographs the guy in

3779
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:02,000
american cosmic uh he called it and i

3780
02:11:05,109 --> 02:11:03,360
asked ryan bledsoe i said

3781
02:11:06,709 --> 02:11:05,119
did you actually hear tyler use the word

3782
02:11:08,069 --> 02:11:06,719
gifting field and he said yeah i used it

3783
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:08,079
and that was the thing he'd taken these

3784
02:11:11,589 --> 02:11:10,000
people to to this field in where they

3785
02:11:13,350 --> 02:11:11,599
were getting this medal

3786
02:11:15,030 --> 02:11:13,360
in new mexico and he called it the

3787
02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:15,040
gifting field as if they're dropping it

3788
02:11:18,149 --> 02:11:16,400
and then you hear the interview with

3789
02:11:20,310 --> 02:11:18,159
with uh george knapp or he's

3790
02:11:22,149 --> 02:11:20,320
interviewing bigelow and he and and

3791
02:11:24,310 --> 02:11:22,159
he says to bigelow oh well what about

3792
02:11:25,669 --> 02:11:24,320
the roswell yeah roswell's real yeah but

3793
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:25,679
there was a there's a crash in china and

3794
02:11:28,470 --> 02:11:26,719
there was a crash in russia

3795
02:11:30,149 --> 02:11:28,480
there's a crash in south america and i

3796
02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:30,159
think they're seeding it so that's why i

3797
02:11:33,350 --> 02:11:31,440
said to jacques valley i said

3798
02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:33,360
hey don't this looks like gifting like

3799
02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:34,719
they're actually dropping this stuff on

3800
02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:35,360
purpose

3801
02:11:38,550 --> 02:11:36,880
they're doing the disclosure as well and

3802
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:38,560
then jacques says well

3803
02:11:42,069 --> 02:11:40,639
i i think i came up with that idea and i

3804
02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:42,079
go oh you did i didn't know that

3805
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:44,239
and that was this idea that this there's

3806
02:11:47,830 --> 02:11:45,920
a lot less random going on that the

3807
02:11:48,229 --> 02:11:47,840
intelligence is doing this disclosure as

3808
02:11:50,870 --> 02:11:48,239
well

3809
02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:50,880
they're doing all this bizarre stuff

3810
02:11:54,950 --> 02:11:52,560
even even the thing where they drop

3811
02:11:56,310 --> 02:11:54,960
from from 80 000 feet down to sea level

3812
02:11:57,669 --> 02:11:56,320
like what is that a pre-abduction

3813
02:12:00,149 --> 02:11:57,679
maneuver no it's to go

3814
02:12:01,109 --> 02:12:00,159
watch this and you drop it down or come

3815
02:12:03,430 --> 02:12:01,119
really close to the

3816
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:03,440
on the east coast they go within inches

3817
02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:04,320
of the plane

3818
02:12:08,229 --> 02:12:05,760
and that's like hey watch how close we

3819
02:12:08,870 --> 02:12:08,239
can get or when when they fly over the

3820
02:12:12,390 --> 02:12:08,880
the the

3821
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:12,400
pilot says it looks like

3822
02:12:17,589 --> 02:12:15,440
you know like a like a uh um uh an

3823
02:12:18,069 --> 02:12:17,599
insect inside a glass jar it's bouncing

3824
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:18,079
around

3825
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:20,480
i saw that the the second night the

3826
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:21,599
second sighting i saw

3827
02:12:24,629 --> 02:12:23,360
in 1975 was like it was jumping around

3828
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:24,639
the sky it was like unbelievable it's

3829
02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:24,960
like

3830
02:12:31,350 --> 02:12:29,280
bouncing around from side to side

3831
02:12:32,470 --> 02:12:31,360
and i say like what why do they need to

3832
02:12:34,629 --> 02:12:32,480
do that like

3833
02:12:35,669 --> 02:12:34,639
why is this ufo zipping around the

3834
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:35,679
making these bizarre

3835
02:12:39,350 --> 02:12:37,920
maneuvers and why did they make the the

3836
02:12:40,950 --> 02:12:39,360
bubbles it's almost like they said oh

3837
02:12:41,430 --> 02:12:40,960
here they come we they were you knew

3838
02:12:43,109 --> 02:12:41,440
that

3839
02:12:44,149 --> 02:12:43,119
nimitz they were there for a week they

3840
02:12:44,790 --> 02:12:44,159
were trying to get the attention it's

3841
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:44,800
like hey

3842
02:12:47,910 --> 02:12:46,320
zogar turn the lights on they can't see

3843
02:12:48,550 --> 02:12:47,920
us i mean come on we're over here like

3844
02:12:50,229 --> 02:12:48,560
take a look

3845
02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:50,239
and then finally they send the f-18s out

3846
02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:52,000
to to go and chase them and then they

3847
02:12:54,550 --> 02:12:52,800
say zogar

3848
02:12:55,910 --> 02:12:54,560
go into the water make big giant bubbles

3849
02:12:57,189 --> 02:12:55,920
here they come and then they fly over

3850
02:12:58,390 --> 02:12:57,199
and it's like oh my god look there's

3851
02:13:00,229 --> 02:12:58,400
bubbles under the water

3852
02:13:02,229 --> 02:13:00,239
and it's it's to me it's like it's just

3853
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:02,239
like a show they're doing as i call it

3854
02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:03,840
the theory of wow they want to get your

3855
02:13:06,149 --> 02:13:04,560
attention

3856
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:06,159
they're doing disclosure as well they're

3857
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:07,599
putting it out there

3858
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:09,520
so that more and more people see and

3859
02:13:12,149 --> 02:13:11,040
more and more people are demanding

3860
02:13:13,109 --> 02:13:12,159
answers because they've had the

3861
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:13,119
experience

3862
02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:15,920
and i think we've we've missed the point

3863
02:13:18,790 --> 02:13:17,920
that the intelligence is disclosing as

3864
02:13:21,589 --> 02:13:18,800
well

3865
02:13:23,109 --> 02:13:21,599
do you what what did you make of uh the

3866
02:13:26,470 --> 02:13:23,119
series of of leaked

3867
02:13:27,750 --> 02:13:26,480
videos uh going back to april was there

3868
02:13:31,430 --> 02:13:27,760
anything in there that felt

3869
02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:31,440
e.t to you or was this just conventional

3870
02:13:35,189 --> 02:13:33,840
aircraft oh no these are these are real

3871
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:35,199
videos but it's the plausible

3872
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:37,040
deniability thing that's where i say

3873
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:38,560
like these videos wrote four weeks

3874
02:13:41,990 --> 02:13:40,880
before little zander resigned this was

3875
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:42,000
all planned

3876
02:13:45,910 --> 02:13:44,560
and and they showed these these videos

3877
02:13:48,149 --> 02:13:45,920
but it was the whole thing

3878
02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:48,159
it gets into this what i think where

3879
02:13:50,790 --> 02:13:49,040
they run the this

3880
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:50,800
information i mean jim semivan had

3881
02:13:53,510 --> 02:13:52,079
supposedly made the statement

3882
02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:53,520
uh if we wanted you dead you would have

3883
02:13:58,149 --> 02:13:56,079
been dead 10 years away no i i'm ready

3884
02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:58,159
grant i'm referring to the the videos

3885
02:14:02,390 --> 02:13:59,280
that were released

3886
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:02,400
uh leaked this year like the the flying

3887
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:04,800
pyramids the flying toasters video

3888
02:14:08,149 --> 02:14:07,199
what did you make of those well i mean i

3889
02:14:09,589 --> 02:14:08,159
we're doing a book

3890
02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:09,599
nicole and i are doing a book on

3891
02:14:13,430 --> 02:14:11,920
pyramids we have that and and that's one

3892
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:13,440
of the things you see is the the whole

3893
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:14,560
thing with the

3894
02:14:18,149 --> 02:14:16,159
uh the intelligence they're they're

3895
02:14:20,069 --> 02:14:18,159
they're just changing the the structure

3896
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:20,079
they're changing the types of craft

3897
02:14:23,750 --> 02:14:22,800
that not with triangles are now before

3898
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:23,760
it was you know

3899
02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:27,440
ships in the 1890s

3900
02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:28,880
they keep changing they're doing this

3901
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:30,560
thing where they're they're appearing as

3902
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:31,520
different things they

3903
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:32,880
they're they're just trying to get

3904
02:14:35,669 --> 02:14:34,079
people's attention they're allowing

3905
02:14:38,830 --> 02:14:35,679
people to take photographs

3906
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:38,840
and i i think all these photographs are

3907
02:14:44,950 --> 02:14:42,000
legitimate and it's all a matter of

3908
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:44,960
the why why would the the intelligence

3909
02:14:48,229 --> 02:14:46,800
need to show itself i mean it can

3910
02:14:50,149 --> 02:14:48,239
it can cloak itself if they're doing

3911
02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:50,159
abductions they don't have to be seen so

3912
02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:50,800
if they

3913
02:14:53,669 --> 02:14:52,719
they're being seen they want to be seen

3914
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:53,679
and that's what they're doing they're

3915
02:14:55,589 --> 02:14:54,000
doing

3916
02:14:57,109 --> 02:14:55,599
this gradual disclosure thing i think

3917
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:57,119
all those videos are real

3918
02:15:00,069 --> 02:14:58,480
i think they're getting them but it's

3919
02:15:02,069 --> 02:15:00,079
always the plausible liability you try

3920
02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:02,079
to track that thing down as to who took

3921
02:15:05,510 --> 02:15:04,079
it and it fall it falls that's where jim

3922
02:15:07,270 --> 02:15:05,520
semivan had said this thing

3923
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:07,280
and that's where i think they the the

3924
02:15:10,470 --> 02:15:08,880
way they control the story

3925
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:10,480
is not to kill people it's you throw a

3926
02:15:13,669 --> 02:15:12,000
mud in the water if you've got a good

3927
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:13,679
story you put another story in that

3928
02:15:16,709 --> 02:15:15,280
counters the first story and makes

3929
02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:16,719
people question it and everybody doesn't

3930
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:18,000
know whether it's real or not

3931
02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:19,360
but everybody's thinking about it it's

3932
02:15:22,310 --> 02:15:20,880
an anomaly and everybody's talking about

3933
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:22,320
and that's all they want to do the more

3934
02:15:25,750 --> 02:15:23,840
we talk about it the more the

3935
02:15:26,950 --> 02:15:25,760
consciousness rises the more people

3936
02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:26,960
become acclimatized

3937
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:29,119
and then what happens in 2017 when they

3938
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:30,639
drop the new york times story everybody

3939
02:15:32,709 --> 02:15:30,960
goes

3940
02:15:34,629 --> 02:15:32,719
yeah okay i knew that already i'm just

3941
02:15:35,750 --> 02:15:34,639
like people are sort of they've heard it

3942
02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:35,760
so many times

3943
02:15:38,470 --> 02:15:37,119
and when you see more and more videos

3944
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:38,480
and they keep doing it no matter what

3945
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:39,440
the skeptics say

3946
02:15:42,629 --> 02:15:41,040
people are seeing those videos and

3947
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:42,639
people are going oh it's probably you

3948
02:15:44,390 --> 02:15:43,199
know real

3949
02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:44,400
and there's another video or another

3950
02:15:49,109 --> 02:15:46,320
video they're getting us ready

3951
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:49,119
for a higher disclosure and so i

3952
02:15:51,589 --> 02:15:50,000
absolutely believe those

3953
02:15:53,669 --> 02:15:51,599
those things are real that's what the

3954
02:15:55,189 --> 02:15:53,679
skeptic i say a skeptic is just somebody

3955
02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:55,199
who's a left-brain interpreter they're

3956
02:15:58,069 --> 02:15:56,719
trying to fill the hole and once they

3957
02:15:58,629 --> 02:15:58,079
fill the hole they're not going to back

3958
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:58,639
off it

3959
02:16:01,510 --> 02:16:00,400
they have their ego on the line and

3960
02:16:01,910 --> 02:16:01,520
they're going to stand their ground

3961
02:16:03,510 --> 02:16:01,920
whatever

3962
02:16:05,270 --> 02:16:03,520
we have to quit listening to these

3963
02:16:06,790 --> 02:16:05,280
people who cares what these people think

3964
02:16:07,669 --> 02:16:06,800
it's like that's your belief system i

3965
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:07,679
mean as i said

3966
02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:09,199
get a suit go to church who cares what

3967
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:10,880
you believe i mean

3968
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:14,000
this is a move that's taking place and

3969
02:16:18,709 --> 02:16:15,520
there's more and more videos coming out

3970
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:18,719
all the time and more extreme videos

3971
02:16:21,830 --> 02:16:20,880
i believe they're all real as to whether

3972
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:21,840
they show e.t

3973
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:23,920
i think they're showing an intelligence

3974
02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:25,119
behind the phenomena

3975
02:16:28,149 --> 02:16:26,960
and i keep calling ufo i don't i didn't

3976
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:28,159
fall into the thing of

3977
02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:30,079
calling it uaps because that came i

3978
02:16:33,429 --> 02:16:31,440
think from from

3979
02:16:35,910 --> 02:16:33,439
great britain and you even saw hillary

3980
02:16:36,230 --> 02:16:35,920
clinton and tootha in may of 2016 she

3981
02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:36,240
said

3982
02:16:39,270 --> 02:16:37,760
you know the new name is uh it's no

3983
02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:39,280
longer called ufo it's called

3984
02:16:44,790 --> 02:16:42,240
uaps the genuine nomenclature so already

3985
02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,800
in 2016 this is all being set up this is

3986
02:16:48,070 --> 02:16:46,800
all orchestrated this is all planned

3987
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:48,080
you're going to see more of this stuff

3988
02:16:52,070 --> 02:16:49,840
i'm not sure who's leaking it but you

3989
02:16:54,150 --> 02:16:52,080
have i would i would guess

3990
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:54,160
um at this point that there are people

3991
02:16:57,190 --> 02:16:55,519
inside the government who know how to

3992
02:16:57,910 --> 02:16:57,200
get this stuff out they want the story

3993
02:17:01,509 --> 02:16:57,920
out

3994
02:17:02,150 --> 02:17:01,519
the the defense department writing these

3995
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:02,160
reports

3996
02:17:05,589 --> 02:17:03,840
trying to bail out the ship and trying

3997
02:17:06,950 --> 02:17:05,599
to keep the thing going saying as little

3998
02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:06,960
as you can there's even a story that

3999
02:17:09,990 --> 02:17:07,920
they said to this

4000
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:10,000
press guys quit talking because every

4001
02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:11,439
time someone says something they say

4002
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:12,639
something that contradicts what

4003
02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:13,359
everybody else says

4004
02:17:17,030 --> 02:17:15,519
and it leads to another 2000 freedom

4005
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:17,040
information act request everybody just

4006
02:17:20,629 --> 02:17:18,399
shut up don't say anything

4007
02:17:22,469 --> 02:17:20,639
and and don't talk about it and i think

4008
02:17:23,830 --> 02:17:22,479
the defense department is scrambling

4009
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:23,840
trying to figure out how to put the

4010
02:17:26,309 --> 02:17:25,040
genie back in the bottle

4011
02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:26,319
and you can't put the genie back in the

4012
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:27,920
bottle it's over especially with danny

4013
02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:28,479
sheehan

4014
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:31,200
on the inside forcing this issue and now

4015
02:17:34,469 --> 02:17:31,840
a fourth

4016
02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:34,479
uh complaint coming in with lawyers and

4017
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,479
talking about medals and stuff like that

4018
02:17:39,830 --> 02:17:38,000
uh this thing is just skyrocketing

4019
02:17:42,549 --> 02:17:39,840
that's what i said when i saw the ttsa

4020
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:42,559
or the the the atip report i said this

4021
02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:44,000
is just then lighting the fuse on the

4022
02:17:46,070 --> 02:17:44,639
bomb

4023
02:17:48,709 --> 02:17:46,080
it's not going to go off on june the

4024
02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:48,719
25th but it is going to set this thing

4025
02:17:52,070 --> 02:17:51,120
and it's going to start to go viral

4026
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:52,080
and that's what's going to happen

4027
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:54,160
because what's happened now i said the

4028
02:17:58,150 --> 02:17:55,599
disclosure will come

4029
02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:58,160
the story will unravel when the major

4030
02:18:02,309 --> 02:17:59,760
media realizes

4031
02:18:04,549 --> 02:18:02,319
they've been had and the major media

4032
02:18:06,790 --> 02:18:04,559
washington post new york times politico

4033
02:18:08,950 --> 02:18:06,800
all these people fox news they've all

4034
02:18:11,429 --> 02:18:08,960
realized they've been had and they

4035
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:11,439
as as ruff blumenthal pointed out he

4036
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:12,960
can't even do a story because the main

4037
02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:14,559
reporters the biggest reporters

4038
02:18:18,389 --> 02:18:16,479
are now all working on this story

4039
02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:18,399
because everybody knows this is pulitzer

4040
02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:19,200
prize stuff

4041
02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:20,719
everybody's digging and scratching to

4042
02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:22,399
the bottom and you're not going to be

4043
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:24,479
able to fight off all the foias

4044
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:26,800
danny sheehan all the major media

4045
02:18:29,030 --> 02:18:28,399
everybody's leaking it's all falling

4046
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:29,040
apart

4047
02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:30,880
and it's just a matter of time until it

4048
02:18:35,349 --> 02:18:32,399
all collapses uh

4049
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:35,359
yesterday on the war zone uh brett

4050
02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:37,280
tingley

4051
02:18:41,910 --> 02:18:40,080
released this this article and i'm just

4052
02:18:46,790 --> 02:18:41,920
going to read you the headline

4053
02:18:49,030 --> 02:18:46,800
uh and it is this the navy's exotic m80

4054
02:18:52,070 --> 02:18:49,040
stiletto test ship

4055
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:52,080
defeated drone swarms

4056
02:18:58,709 --> 02:18:55,439
at sea during trials

4057
02:19:00,549 --> 02:18:58,719
and very curious right drone swarms

4058
02:19:01,750 --> 02:19:00,559
right there there's a photograph of the

4059
02:19:04,790 --> 02:19:01,760
ship it's gorgeous

4060
02:19:08,150 --> 02:19:04,800
it's a a very space-aged

4061
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:08,160
looking stealth craft it's pretty big um

4062
02:19:14,389 --> 02:19:11,200
but went out uh with c in sea trials

4063
02:19:18,549 --> 02:19:14,399
using the drone shield system

4064
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:18,559
and uh uh defeated swarms

4065
02:19:24,870 --> 02:19:21,760
of drones and now

4066
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:24,880
talking about you know confusing issues

4067
02:19:29,270 --> 02:19:25,840
right

4068
02:19:32,629 --> 02:19:29,280
we have the 2019 uh

4069
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:32,639
swarming of of the us navy off of the

4070
02:19:37,910 --> 02:19:34,000
pacific coast

4071
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:37,920
and then we've got this the m80 stiletto

4072
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:39,840
um and it's photographed here in

4073
02:19:45,349 --> 02:19:41,679
guantanamo bay

4074
02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:45,359
um with this counter uh trafficking

4075
02:19:53,270 --> 02:19:49,680
uh drones swarm anti-drone swarm system

4076
02:19:55,670 --> 02:19:53,280
installed um when everything else is

4077
02:19:59,349 --> 02:19:55,680
coming out uh you know about these

4078
02:20:01,750 --> 02:19:59,359
swarms of of ufos and new uaps

4079
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:01,760
and then this story comes out and it

4080
02:20:04,389 --> 02:20:03,280
just makes you wonder scrat

4081
02:20:06,389 --> 02:20:04,399
you know you want to scratch your head

4082
02:20:08,870 --> 02:20:06,399
and go back and and think what what is

4083
02:20:12,389 --> 02:20:08,880
it that we're really dealing with here

4084
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:12,399
is it drones um the um

4085
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:16,160
the video uh that was released of the

4086
02:20:19,190 --> 02:20:18,000
uh you know the flying pyramids flying

4087
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:19,200
toasters

4088
02:20:24,309 --> 02:20:22,240
um and in that leaked video the uh

4089
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:24,319
there was flashing aircraft lights on

4090
02:20:28,070 --> 02:20:25,680
them number one

4091
02:20:28,870 --> 02:20:28,080
but number two there wasn't any erratic

4092
02:20:30,710 --> 02:20:28,880
behavior

4093
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:30,720
and these things are operating at you

4094
02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:32,080
know 40 knots

4095
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:35,760
50 knots 60 knots nothing exotic

4096
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:39,920
as far as you know in et technology

4097
02:20:43,910 --> 02:20:42,000
would go but then you see a report like

4098
02:20:45,110 --> 02:20:43,920
this coming out and this testing is

4099
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:45,120
ongoing

4100
02:20:48,710 --> 02:20:47,600
with the united states navy it's could

4101
02:20:52,790 --> 02:20:48,720
this be

4102
02:20:54,469 --> 02:20:52,800
issue what do you think grant

4103
02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:54,479
well it could be that's that's what i

4104
02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:56,000
say that's what what i would say is

4105
02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:57,520
counterintelligence is going to do

4106
02:21:00,469 --> 02:20:59,439
is they're not going to kill anybody

4107
02:21:01,110 --> 02:21:00,479
they're just going to throw mud in the

4108
02:21:03,910 --> 02:21:01,120
water

4109
02:21:06,389 --> 02:21:03,920
so if you if you're talking uh multiple

4110
02:21:09,190 --> 02:21:06,399
objects that are swarming a

4111
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:09,200
ship then you put out a story that we

4112
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:10,720
are able to take on drones

4113
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:12,160
a program that they actually have that

4114
02:21:14,710 --> 02:21:13,520
make people wonder well i wonder if

4115
02:21:15,429 --> 02:21:14,720
that's what it is but you're never going

4116
02:21:17,429 --> 02:21:15,439
to know

4117
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:17,439
because we have no providence on any of

4118
02:21:21,030 --> 02:21:19,120
this stuff it's being leaked

4119
02:21:22,389 --> 02:21:21,040
so both sides are leaking the people who

4120
02:21:23,429 --> 02:21:22,399
are trying to cover up are leaking to

4121
02:21:25,110 --> 02:21:23,439
throw mud in the water

4122
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:25,120
so you don't really know what's going on

4123
02:21:28,710 --> 02:21:26,720
we actually have a triangle sighting

4124
02:21:30,230 --> 02:21:28,720
i'm we have this whole thing we hope

4125
02:21:31,510 --> 02:21:30,240
china doesn't get out of russia and i'm

4126
02:21:32,630 --> 02:21:31,520
actually doing interviews now with

4127
02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:32,640
chinese people

4128
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:35,040
uh ufo researchers inside china and you

4129
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:36,240
talked to them and the ones got her

4130
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:38,000
little cat and this little cat is like

4131
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:38,880
and you're going like

4132
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:40,080
these are evil people they're just the

4133
02:21:43,349 --> 02:21:42,080
people like us and they had a triangle

4134
02:21:45,990 --> 02:21:43,359
sighting there in

4135
02:21:47,110 --> 02:21:46,000
shanghai which we're uh going to be

4136
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:47,120
talking about uh

4137
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:49,040
this weekend with one of the researchers

4138
02:21:52,950 --> 02:21:50,880
there uh they have the triangles too

4139
02:21:54,309 --> 02:21:52,960
so is that you know an american

4140
02:21:57,190 --> 02:21:54,319
technology or or

4141
02:21:59,429 --> 02:21:57,200
are the um the the intelligence putting

4142
02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:59,439
out it's pretty hard to tell

4143
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:01,600
uh but it doesn't really matter in terms

4144
02:22:04,630 --> 02:22:02,880
of disclosure because

4145
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:04,640
the me the you and i are going to have

4146
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:06,319
this discussion i mean is this

4147
02:22:10,150 --> 02:22:07,840
is this our technology or their

4148
02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:10,160
technology but it once it gets out into

4149
02:22:12,309 --> 02:22:10,960
the media

4150
02:22:14,309 --> 02:22:12,319
everybody's going to go oh there's

4151
02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:14,319
another one oh wow they're they're not

4152
02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:14,720
going to

4153
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:17,760
with government technology they're just

4154
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:19,120
going to go another video

4155
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:21,040
and the consciousness rises another step

4156
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:22,880
i think it's it works against

4157
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:24,319
uh whoever's putting it if they're

4158
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:26,080
trying to do this information the more

4159
02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:27,520
we talk about this it's almost like

4160
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:28,800
african-american or

4161
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:30,160
like i always say social political

4162
02:22:31,990 --> 02:22:31,280
movements we're no different than any

4163
02:22:33,590 --> 02:22:32,000
other social

4164
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:33,600
political movement whether it was

4165
02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:35,520
african-american rights or gay rights or

4166
02:22:37,830 --> 02:22:36,399
whatever

4167
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:37,840
the more you talk about it the more it

4168
02:22:40,790 --> 02:22:39,840
goes up you can do all the bad jokes

4169
02:22:42,710 --> 02:22:40,800
about uh

4170
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:42,720
you know african americans in 1960s and

4171
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:44,080
movies or whatever the more you talk

4172
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:45,280
about as long as you spell your name

4173
02:22:49,030 --> 02:22:47,200
right it just raises the consciousness

4174
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:49,040
and in the end everybody's going to know

4175
02:22:51,910 --> 02:22:50,560
what the right answer is everybody's

4176
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:51,920
going to make the assumption

4177
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:53,200
that this is the way it is this is the

4178
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:55,120
way it works but we have to talk about

4179
02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:55,600
it and

4180
02:22:58,710 --> 02:22:57,520
so it really doesn't matter the details

4181
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:58,720
whether same as

4182
02:23:02,309 --> 02:23:00,399
we talked about i think before with with

4183
02:23:03,190 --> 02:23:02,319
paul hellyer paul hellyer only had one

4184
02:23:06,550 --> 02:23:03,200
major

4185
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:06,560
the general and he he had this

4186
02:23:09,110 --> 02:23:07,840
guy from the head of emergency

4187
02:23:09,830 --> 02:23:09,120
management who told him he'd been

4188
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:09,840
briefed

4189
02:23:13,510 --> 02:23:11,920
and taken to area 51 all this kind of

4190
02:23:14,309 --> 02:23:13,520
stuff but other than that paul hellyer

4191
02:23:15,990 --> 02:23:14,319
had nothing

4192
02:23:17,670 --> 02:23:16,000
he didn't know anything i had meetings

4193
02:23:18,150 --> 02:23:17,680
with him he confirmed no he didn't know

4194
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:18,160
anything

4195
02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:20,240
he wasn't interested in the subject but

4196
02:23:23,349 --> 02:23:21,840
he's he's telling all these stories he's

4197
02:23:24,790 --> 02:23:23,359
just repeating what everybody else does

4198
02:23:26,389 --> 02:23:24,800
and even though the stuff that he's a

4199
02:23:28,070 --> 02:23:26,399
lot of the stuff he's repeating is not

4200
02:23:29,110 --> 02:23:28,080
true it's just garbage it still works

4201
02:23:30,870 --> 02:23:29,120
because he's a former

4202
02:23:32,230 --> 02:23:30,880
defense minister in canada and everybody

4203
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:32,240
goes oh paul i like what he's telling

4204
02:23:34,389 --> 02:23:32,880
these stories

4205
02:23:36,070 --> 02:23:34,399
and it raises consciousness it makes

4206
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:36,080
people more open to the subject

4207
02:23:39,110 --> 02:23:37,680
that this thing's for real and the more

4208
02:23:40,070 --> 02:23:39,120
people know it's for real the less they

4209
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:40,080
believe what the government's going to

4210
02:23:42,550 --> 02:23:40,720
put out

4211
02:23:44,230 --> 02:23:42,560
so this does help disclosure even if

4212
02:23:46,630 --> 02:23:44,240
it's phony documents or

4213
02:23:47,750 --> 02:23:46,640
phony videos it is going to help the

4214
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:47,760
thing because it just

4215
02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:50,080
it's another drop in in the ocean and

4216
02:23:53,349 --> 02:23:51,280
it's eventually

4217
02:23:54,950 --> 02:23:53,359
it's all going to flood the the place

4218
02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:54,960
and it's going to be over i think it's

4219
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,319
it's just going to accelerate that's why

4220
02:24:01,270 --> 02:23:59,200
i said the the initial uap report

4221
02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:01,280
is only the start that just starts the

4222
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:03,040
the fuse on the bomb

4223
02:24:06,230 --> 02:24:04,720
this is going to blow there's no way i

4224
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:06,240
don't think they can stop it especially

4225
02:24:10,309 --> 02:24:08,800
with danny sheehan in there inside the

4226
02:24:10,790 --> 02:24:10,319
wall there's no way they can stop this

4227
02:24:16,870 --> 02:24:10,800
now

4228
02:24:18,389 --> 02:24:16,880
question um and fantastic conversation

4229
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:18,399
tonight grant thank you

4230
02:24:24,230 --> 02:24:22,000
is are you surprised about the lack of

4231
02:24:25,750 --> 02:24:24,240
the united states air force in any of

4232
02:24:28,309 --> 02:24:25,760
these conversations

4233
02:24:28,790 --> 02:24:28,319
that it's all centered around the united

4234
02:24:32,469 --> 02:24:28,800
states

4235
02:24:35,349 --> 02:24:32,479
navy um well

4236
02:24:36,870 --> 02:24:35,359
yes and no um um when i was working on

4237
02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:36,880
the canadian stuff we did bring out a

4238
02:24:40,389 --> 02:24:38,960
book on canada the canadian study in the

4239
02:24:42,070 --> 02:24:40,399
1950s but

4240
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:42,080
when i asked the canadians because as i

4241
02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:43,439
said they had the top secret memo and i

4242
02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:44,479
went to them and i said

4243
02:24:47,590 --> 02:24:46,240
who was wilbur talking to in the united

4244
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:47,600
states and they said

4245
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:49,439
the navy and this is the whole thing

4246
02:24:54,230 --> 02:24:51,280
people don't realize that when the ufo

4247
02:24:56,389 --> 02:24:54,240
thing started in 1947

4248
02:24:57,670 --> 02:24:56,399
when when the roswell thing happened

4249
02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:57,680
there was no air force

4250
02:25:01,030 --> 02:25:00,000
it was army air force and all the

4251
02:25:02,309 --> 02:25:01,040
research money

4252
02:25:04,389 --> 02:25:02,319
and this is what this is about this

4253
02:25:06,389 --> 02:25:04,399
whole thing is about research money

4254
02:25:07,990 --> 02:25:06,399
about who controls the budgets inside

4255
02:25:09,590 --> 02:25:08,000
the pentagon for research

4256
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:09,600
and when the whole thing started the air

4257
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:11,760
force was not there so the big

4258
02:25:15,030 --> 02:25:14,160
money the big research money was held by

4259
02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:15,040
the navy

4260
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:16,640
and if you see bob lazar said it was

4261
02:25:21,830 --> 02:25:18,720
navy you see this over and over again

4262
02:25:23,349 --> 02:25:21,840
uh uh bob exler said it was navy

4263
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:23,359
uh you had all these different things

4264
02:25:25,910 --> 02:25:24,800
and it may have been the navy all along

4265
02:25:27,030 --> 02:25:25,920
it was running the whole show

4266
02:25:28,309 --> 02:25:27,040
and it was a misdirection that

4267
02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:28,319
everybody's chasing the air force it was

4268
02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:30,000
actually the navy but it made sense that

4269
02:25:34,150 --> 02:25:31,280
the navy had the

4270
02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:34,160
the research funds in 1946-47 and when

4271
02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:35,359
the air force came along and they said

4272
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:36,080
this is our

4273
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:39,840
get lost we got the money you're not

4274
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:40,560
taking our money

4275
02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:42,880
get lost go start your own thing and so

4276
02:25:45,670 --> 02:25:43,840
they broke off

4277
02:25:46,870 --> 02:25:45,680
and you even see the navy has its own

4278
02:25:48,870 --> 02:25:46,880
air force type thing

4279
02:25:51,590 --> 02:25:48,880
fighter jets and stuff like that that

4280
02:25:55,750 --> 02:25:51,600
the you have these in inner

4281
02:25:56,950 --> 02:25:55,760
fights between the different

4282
02:25:59,030 --> 02:25:56,960
services and they're not going to give

4283
02:26:00,710 --> 02:25:59,040
up their stuff so the navy was original

4284
02:26:01,670 --> 02:26:00,720
it was the navy that was running i think

4285
02:26:03,910 --> 02:26:01,680
the ufo thing

4286
02:26:05,670 --> 02:26:03,920
before the air force came on board and

4287
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:05,680
so i'm not really surprised that the air

4288
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:06,479
force

4289
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:08,319
uh has not been brought in and and it

4290
02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:09,840
may have been part of the plan that

4291
02:26:13,510 --> 02:26:11,520
the navy has this stuff let's get the

4292
02:26:14,870 --> 02:26:13,520
navy look that the navy's upset

4293
02:26:17,270 --> 02:26:14,880
the navy is going to release this stuff

4294
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:17,280
they're interacting with these ships

4295
02:26:20,070 --> 02:26:18,720
this will be a good way to put the story

4296
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:20,080
out we need the story we're going to use

4297
02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:21,840
this we can use the threat thing

4298
02:26:25,270 --> 02:26:24,560
and all this kind of stuff and the navy

4299
02:26:27,429 --> 02:26:25,280
was ready to

4300
02:26:29,190 --> 02:26:27,439
to play the game or people inside you

4301
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:29,200
never know the people that are running

4302
02:26:33,429 --> 02:26:30,640
it may have been navy people

4303
02:26:35,110 --> 02:26:33,439
ron pandolfi had claimed that every navy

4304
02:26:36,230 --> 02:26:35,120
flag officer has been briefed

4305
02:26:37,750 --> 02:26:36,240
there was all sorts of people talking

4306
02:26:39,030 --> 02:26:37,760
about the fact that the navy was running

4307
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:39,040
the show

4308
02:26:42,389 --> 02:26:41,520
there was another uh interesting comment

4309
02:26:44,870 --> 02:26:42,399
i've only got about

4310
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:44,880
a minute left grant that lou said

4311
02:26:48,550 --> 02:26:46,319
yesterday i asked him if

4312
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:48,560
this was gun camera footage you know in

4313
02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:50,160
this 23 minute

4314
02:26:55,030 --> 02:26:54,160
ufo uap video and which he's classifying

4315
02:26:57,349 --> 02:26:55,040
as ufo

4316
02:26:58,150 --> 02:26:57,359
by the way lou directly i'm sure you

4317
02:27:00,790 --> 02:26:58,160
heard that

4318
02:27:01,429 --> 02:27:00,800
and he said um i need to go back and

4319
02:27:05,030 --> 02:27:01,439
listen

4320
02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:05,040
to exactly how we put it but

4321
02:27:08,870 --> 02:27:07,840
he said it was an electronic uh

4322
02:27:10,790 --> 02:27:08,880
observation

4323
02:27:13,429 --> 02:27:10,800
station systems yeah yeah well that

4324
02:27:17,110 --> 02:27:13,439
would be the thing on everything on

4325
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:17,120
planes on boats on you know

4326
02:27:20,389 --> 02:27:18,560
everything would have all sorts of

4327
02:27:23,349 --> 02:27:20,399
sensors you know radar

4328
02:27:24,870 --> 02:27:23,359
and visual and infrared and all these

4329
02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:24,880
sensors that's why they talk about this

4330
02:27:28,230 --> 02:27:26,080
highly classified stuff

4331
02:27:30,309 --> 02:27:28,240
that it's not just the video you have

4332
02:27:31,750 --> 02:27:30,319
all this other data that backs up the

4333
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:31,760
video that they probably have you know

4334
02:27:35,830 --> 02:27:33,280
10 different sensors

4335
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:35,840
that are if something comes on they've

4336
02:27:38,389 --> 02:27:36,800
got 10 different

4337
02:27:40,309 --> 02:27:38,399
measurements of this object so that's

4338
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:40,319
where i'm thinking he's talking sensors

4339
02:27:44,389 --> 02:27:41,680
that one of these sensors

4340
02:27:45,349 --> 02:27:44,399
is has picked this up so they have video

4341
02:27:47,190 --> 02:27:45,359
and all these other

4342
02:27:48,710 --> 02:27:47,200
radar and all this sort of stuff so they

4343
02:27:51,590 --> 02:27:48,720
know it's not just simply

4344
02:27:52,389 --> 02:27:51,600
uh uh anomaly on a on a piece of

4345
02:27:53,910 --> 02:27:52,399
photograph

4346
02:27:55,030 --> 02:27:53,920
they've got all these other sensors so

4347
02:27:56,950 --> 02:27:55,040
that's why i think he's using the thing

4348
02:27:58,150 --> 02:27:56,960
with sensors which makes sense that that

4349
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:58,160
stuff is classified

4350
02:28:02,230 --> 02:28:00,080
that you're going to give away how do we

4351
02:28:03,750 --> 02:28:02,240
detect if the russians try to attack us

4352
02:28:05,510 --> 02:28:03,760
what kind of sensors do we have that

4353
02:28:06,710 --> 02:28:05,520
will pick them up coming in on the

4354
02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:06,720
attack and we're not going to give that

4355
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:07,520
stuff out

4356
02:28:12,150 --> 02:28:10,160
now uh really quick you're doing a lot

4357
02:28:13,910 --> 02:28:12,160
of live streaming now

4358
02:28:15,429 --> 02:28:13,920
do you do it on a specific day of the

4359
02:28:16,870 --> 02:28:15,439
week and where can everybody go and

4360
02:28:18,950 --> 02:28:16,880
check it out

4361
02:28:20,550 --> 02:28:18,960
uh white house ufo is my youtube channel

4362
02:28:22,790 --> 02:28:20,560
we usually play off of

4363
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:22,800
the big story so when they did the 60

4364
02:28:25,429 --> 02:28:24,640
minutes we had the 60 minutes post game

4365
02:28:28,469 --> 02:28:25,439
show

4366
02:28:29,429 --> 02:28:28,479
and then when they did the uap report i

4367
02:28:31,030 --> 02:28:29,439
said they weren't going to talk about

4368
02:28:34,710 --> 02:28:31,040
experiences so we're going to do the

4369
02:28:35,349 --> 02:28:34,720
the uap report but from the experiences

4370
02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:35,359
from the

4371
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:39,040
um the ufo side my i do a daily podcast

4372
02:28:43,990 --> 02:28:42,080
paranormal ufo consciousness podcast and

4373
02:28:46,230 --> 02:28:44,000
i'm into nuclear weapons now i'm doing

4374
02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:46,240
a bunch of series on nuclear weapons and

4375
02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:47,680
the connection to ufos

4376
02:28:51,750 --> 02:28:49,600
and i interview a lot of experiencers so

4377
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:51,760
i'm on there basically every day

4378
02:28:54,950 --> 02:28:53,520
paranormal ufo consciousness i don't

4379
02:28:55,830 --> 02:28:54,960
really run the website anymore i've shut

4380
02:28:57,030 --> 02:28:55,840
the website down

4381
02:28:59,270 --> 02:28:57,040
i'm not really too interested in

4382
02:29:01,750 --> 02:28:59,280
presidents anymore but i do the

4383
02:29:02,710 --> 02:29:01,760
the um the the podcast is the main thing

4384
02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:02,720
and and

4385
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:05,439
facebook my main site is presidential

4386
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:07,600
ufo my facebook site if you want to see

4387
02:29:11,110 --> 02:29:09,920
stuff i'm posting every day and a big

4388
02:29:14,389 --> 02:29:11,120
shout out to nicole

4389
02:29:16,950 --> 02:29:14,399
i i got to hang out with her for uh

4390
02:29:17,429 --> 02:29:16,960
six or seven days a couple of weeks ago

4391
02:29:21,830 --> 02:29:17,439
and

4392
02:29:23,750 --> 02:29:21,840
she's listening now what's up nicole

4393
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:23,760
thank you so much grant you are

4394
02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:26,640
absolutely amazing i look forward to

4395
02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:27,280
seeing you

4396
02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:29,520
in about six weeks we're gonna make that

4397
02:29:32,710 --> 02:29:31,359
happen and then right after that of

4398
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:32,720
course star works

4399
02:29:36,070 --> 02:29:35,200
and i have been told i'm going to

4400
02:29:38,710 --> 02:29:36,080
introduce you

4401
02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:38,720
at star works so there you go thank you

4402
02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:39,280
so so

4403
02:29:42,150 --> 02:29:40,800
and you're you're in contact with all

4404
02:29:43,670 --> 02:29:42,160
the big boys so you heard all my

4405
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:43,680
questions that i want this answered that

4406
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:44,240
answers

4407
02:29:50,710 --> 02:29:47,920
your job to do now yeah and

4408
02:29:52,630 --> 02:29:50,720
i will be right back at you okay thank

4409
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:52,640
you so much grant have a great night

4410
02:29:58,230 --> 02:29:55,600
okay good night grant cameron wow that

4411
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was amazing so we just squeezed in three

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shows

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into one for all of you out there grant

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cameron you're absolutely amazing

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[Music]

4495
02:34:16,870 --> 02:34:15,280
welcome back fate to black i am your

4496
02:34:18,550 --> 02:34:16,880
host jimmy church thank you grant

4497
02:34:22,070 --> 02:34:18,560
cameron

4498
02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:22,080
amazing conversation he's the best

4499
02:34:29,190 --> 02:34:24,160
he's the best absolutely fantastic show

4500
02:34:32,550 --> 02:34:30,710
five one 747-228-20517 four seven two

4501
02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:32,560
two eight two zero five on

4502
02:34:38,230 --> 02:34:35,920
so much uh to take away uh

4503
02:34:39,910 --> 02:34:38,240
with with grant it's one of those shows

4504
02:34:43,590 --> 02:34:39,920
you've gotta listen to it

4505
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:43,600
uh again and uh and go back and

4506
02:34:48,469 --> 02:34:46,240
and and and pick up these little nuggets

4507
02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:48,479
that he lays out there and one of the

4508
02:34:53,270 --> 02:34:50,240
things that sticks out

4509
02:34:56,150 --> 02:34:53,280
uh for me is uh his

4510
02:34:58,150 --> 02:34:56,160
his references going back to 2016. and

4511
02:35:02,710 --> 02:34:58,160
we have to remember

4512
02:35:03,110 --> 02:35:02,720
that uh 2016 predates everything i did

4513
02:35:06,349 --> 02:35:03,120
do

4514
02:35:07,590 --> 02:35:06,359
uh the interview with tom delong in uh

4515
02:35:11,030 --> 02:35:07,600
2016.

4516
02:35:13,910 --> 02:35:11,040
uh the announcements um

4517
02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:13,920
uh with uh to the stars academy and then

4518
02:35:16,870 --> 02:35:15,040
of course

4519
02:35:18,710 --> 02:35:16,880
um everything that happened in december

4520
02:35:22,630 --> 02:35:18,720
of 2017.

4521
02:35:25,429 --> 02:35:22,640
ttsa was announced in october of uh 2017

4522
02:35:26,389 --> 02:35:25,439
and how everything started to explode

4523
02:35:33,270 --> 02:35:26,399
and

4524
02:35:36,790 --> 02:35:33,280
think about everything that was going on

4525
02:35:39,190 --> 02:35:36,800
and then of course um there was

4526
02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:39,200
um i don't know if i've ever mentioned

4527
02:35:43,910 --> 02:35:40,000
this on the

4528
02:35:45,429 --> 02:35:43,920
air i don't know but uh i'll certainly

4529
02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:45,439
do it now

4530
02:35:52,469 --> 02:35:49,200
um in the wikileaks

4531
02:35:54,950 --> 02:35:52,479
uh podesta emails that

4532
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:54,960
were released in that dump and part of

4533
02:36:00,230 --> 02:35:56,880
that was podesta

4534
02:36:03,349 --> 02:36:00,240
and uh tom delong and

4535
02:36:06,070 --> 02:36:03,359
i was uh tom and i were

4536
02:36:08,790 --> 02:36:06,080
so i guess i've got to think about this

4537
02:36:09,510 --> 02:36:08,800
i was five years ago the timing of

4538
02:36:12,790 --> 02:36:09,520
everything

4539
02:36:13,830 --> 02:36:12,800
so go with me on this um had tom on the

4540
02:36:17,349 --> 02:36:13,840
show

4541
02:36:19,270 --> 02:36:17,359
and tom and i are exchanging

4542
02:36:21,270 --> 02:36:19,280
emails and we're talking and phones and

4543
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:21,280
things like that but anyway

4544
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:23,680
the podesta league comes out and i

4545
02:36:29,190 --> 02:36:25,600
remember

4546
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:29,200
looking right at the email i'm like

4547
02:36:34,630 --> 02:36:31,280
that's tom's email

4548
02:36:41,429 --> 02:36:37,670
i write tom right then

4549
02:36:43,510 --> 02:36:41,439
and tom's email was no good

4550
02:36:45,349 --> 02:36:43,520
i was like wow and i had just written

4551
02:36:46,550 --> 02:36:45,359
tom like a couple of days ago where he

4552
02:36:50,070 --> 02:36:46,560
had written me

4553
02:36:52,389 --> 02:36:50,080
and that email was stopped and i pick up

4554
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:52,399
the phone and go dude

4555
02:36:56,950 --> 02:36:54,880
yeah man i got a new email here it is

4556
02:36:59,429 --> 02:36:56,960
and and he sends it to me

4557
02:37:00,150 --> 02:36:59,439
but uh i was like holy crap because dude

4558
02:37:03,110 --> 02:37:00,160
if my

4559
02:37:04,070 --> 02:37:03,120
my email was uh absolutely jammed up and

4560
02:37:06,309 --> 02:37:04,080
flooded

4561
02:37:08,710 --> 02:37:06,319
and i i can't believe uh that this

4562
02:37:10,070 --> 02:37:08,720
happened uh with wikileaks and i'm i'm

4563
02:37:12,230 --> 02:37:10,080
embarrassed by it

4564
02:37:14,469 --> 02:37:12,240
but uh there were all of those

4565
02:37:17,830 --> 02:37:14,479
disclosures but that happened

4566
02:37:19,990 --> 02:37:17,840
that actually happened and so uh earlier

4567
02:37:23,429 --> 02:37:20,000
this week when somebody had brought up

4568
02:37:26,469 --> 02:37:23,439
the uh uh tom de long

4569
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:26,479
show and it has now what is really

4570
02:37:29,590 --> 02:37:27,520
strange

4571
02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:29,600
is i've had a bunch of emails about it

4572
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:32,080
i've been watching social media now

4573
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:34,080
uh grant brings it up and it was brought

4574
02:37:39,190 --> 02:37:35,280
up a couple of times

4575
02:37:40,870 --> 02:37:39,200
uh this week uh this this interview that

4576
02:37:42,710 --> 02:37:40,880
i had done with tom i don't know how

4577
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:42,720
many

4578
02:37:49,190 --> 02:37:46,000
i think he did

4579
02:37:51,830 --> 02:37:49,200
he might have done one with nap

4580
02:37:52,469 --> 02:37:51,840
on on coast to coast uh he did the show

4581
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:52,479
with me

4582
02:37:56,230 --> 02:37:54,800
and then after that he did the show on

4583
02:37:58,309 --> 02:37:56,240
joe rogan

4584
02:37:59,990 --> 02:37:58,319
i'm not so sure if tom did a whole lot

4585
02:38:02,070 --> 02:38:00,000
of interviews out there

4586
02:38:03,910 --> 02:38:02,080
and i might have been one of like maybe

4587
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:03,920
three or four

4588
02:38:07,590 --> 02:38:06,000
but it is part of you know the

4589
02:38:10,309 --> 02:38:07,600
historical record this

4590
02:38:11,110 --> 02:38:10,319
this interview i did back in 2016.

4591
02:38:14,710 --> 02:38:11,120
anyway

4592
02:38:18,710 --> 02:38:14,720
the podesta emails and so they have now

4593
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:18,720
surfaced again and the

4594
02:38:22,309 --> 02:38:20,800
uh podesta emails now that people are

4595
02:38:24,550 --> 02:38:22,319
taking a closer look

4596
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:24,560
is this email exchange you know that

4597
02:38:30,469 --> 02:38:27,280
went down with a bob fish

4598
02:38:33,750 --> 02:38:30,479
and going back to 2016

4599
02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:33,760
and the stuff that bob fish um is

4600
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:36,160
referencing in these emails uh with

4601
02:38:40,309 --> 02:38:37,760
podesta

4602
02:38:41,990 --> 02:38:40,319
and we think about the roosevelt and

4603
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:42,000
what is going off at the coast

4604
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:44,240
of florida now there's another part of

4605
02:38:47,590 --> 02:38:45,359
this

4606
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:47,600
um and i encourage everybody to go out

4607
02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:49,600
there and take a look at these podesta

4608
02:38:54,550 --> 02:38:51,280
bob fish emails

4609
02:38:58,150 --> 02:38:54,560
um this reference to

4610
02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:58,160
a very specific place

4611
02:39:01,590 --> 02:39:00,960
in the pacific ocean off of the east

4612
02:39:05,110 --> 02:39:01,600
coast

4613
02:39:08,830 --> 02:39:05,120
of uh miami north of

4614
02:39:11,110 --> 02:39:08,840
bermuda where the united states navy was

4615
02:39:15,270 --> 02:39:11,120
tracking these

4616
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:15,280
uh ufos uh going in and out of the water

4617
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:18,479
a very specific point and

4618
02:39:22,389 --> 02:39:20,960
because of the frequency that the united

4619
02:39:25,910 --> 02:39:22,399
states navy had picked up on

4620
02:39:27,670 --> 02:39:25,920
of these craft this electromagnetic

4621
02:39:29,510 --> 02:39:27,680
frequency they knew where they were and

4622
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:29,520
they could triangulate it and they knew

4623
02:39:36,070 --> 02:39:32,000
specifically where they were coming

4624
02:39:38,630 --> 02:39:36,080
and going um in and out of the ocean

4625
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:38,640
all of that is very very interesting and

4626
02:39:42,950 --> 02:39:39,840
then of course you have

4627
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:42,960
the roosevelt and and everything else

4628
02:39:46,469 --> 02:39:43,840
that we know and

4629
02:39:47,910 --> 02:39:46,479
including uh the nimitz stuff and

4630
02:39:51,110 --> 02:39:47,920
catalina island

4631
02:39:54,790 --> 02:39:51,120
which again goes back to 2004 but

4632
02:39:58,309 --> 02:39:54,800
the this stuff is referenced in these

4633
02:40:00,070 --> 02:39:58,319
emails it's very

4634
02:40:01,429 --> 02:40:00,080
very interesting and again it's going

4635
02:40:05,110 --> 02:40:01,439
back to 2016

4636
02:40:08,309 --> 02:40:05,120
and the timing of of all of this

4637
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:08,319
and and what we know today i am i'm

4638
02:40:15,590 --> 02:40:11,520
very very very intrigued um

4639
02:40:19,030 --> 02:40:15,600
i don't know uh bob fish says that he

4640
02:40:22,150 --> 02:40:19,040
is an i.t contractor um

4641
02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:22,160
but bob fish also references these

4642
02:40:28,230 --> 02:40:24,240
conversations that he had

4643
02:40:31,990 --> 02:40:28,240
with these uh uh navy ncos

4644
02:40:35,830 --> 02:40:32,000
um and and air force and and elent

4645
02:40:38,950 --> 02:40:35,840
electronic intelligence uh very very

4646
02:40:41,510 --> 02:40:38,960
very interesting um and

4647
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:41,520
coming on the heels of all of this uh i

4648
02:40:46,630 --> 02:40:43,520
want everybody to go

4649
02:40:48,309 --> 02:40:46,640
to the war zone i'm going to

4650
02:40:51,110 --> 02:40:48,319
uh you know what i'm gonna post this up

4651
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:51,120
in twitter right now this is the article

4652
02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:55,520
and uh um i'm putting calls on hold as

4653
02:40:58,710 --> 02:40:57,279
i'm i'm doing this too as well so just

4654
02:41:03,469 --> 02:40:58,720
stay right there

4655
02:41:08,230 --> 02:41:03,479
here is the warzone article about uh

4656
02:41:14,830 --> 02:41:11,429
and testing with

4657
02:41:18,710 --> 02:41:14,840
the navy's

4658
02:41:21,990 --> 02:41:18,720
m 80. okay now this is it

4659
02:41:24,070 --> 02:41:22,000
i want everybody to go okay with with

4660
02:41:25,269 --> 02:41:24,080
everything that is being talked about

4661
02:41:28,389 --> 02:41:25,279
today

4662
02:41:31,990 --> 02:41:28,399
about swarming uaps

4663
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:32,000
and then we have an article like this um

4664
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:35,040
uh coming out it's uh

4665
02:41:38,150 --> 02:41:37,680
it's interesting i find the timing of it

4666
02:41:41,510 --> 02:41:38,160
very

4667
02:41:42,790 --> 02:41:41,520
interesting of course but uh it's the

4668
02:41:45,030 --> 02:41:42,800
subject matter

4669
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:45,040
and if we go back to these leaked videos

4670
02:41:52,710 --> 02:41:46,960
that have been coming out april and may

4671
02:41:56,309 --> 02:41:55,830
terrestrial aircraft right that's that's

4672
02:41:59,269 --> 02:41:56,319
what i

4673
02:42:00,870 --> 02:41:59,279
see i don't see anything funky i see

4674
02:42:04,150 --> 02:42:00,880
flashing aircraft lights

4675
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:04,160
but could it this be exactly what is

4676
02:42:11,030 --> 02:42:08,640
in this article in the war zone

4677
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:11,040
just go and read it for yourself let's

4678
02:42:16,070 --> 02:42:12,960
uh let's get to the phones hi you're

4679
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:16,080
live on fade to black who's calling

4680
02:42:19,429 --> 02:42:17,840
yo this is uh phillip i'm originally

4681
02:42:20,070 --> 02:42:19,439
from kentucky about live in louisiana

4682
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:20,080
how you doing

4683
02:42:23,910 --> 02:42:21,520
i'm doing good philip what's on your

4684
02:42:25,510 --> 02:42:23,920
mind tonight

4685
02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:25,520
uh well let's be honest man i kind of

4686
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:27,040
have something to disclose

4687
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:30,000
uh based on like what i dream i had and

4688
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:31,439
i want to see if you can have like

4689
02:42:38,950 --> 02:42:34,479
uh like what's your insights on it

4690
02:42:40,550 --> 02:42:38,960
okay i i'll take a crack at it

4691
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:40,560
okay and you're familiar with david

4692
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:42,640
wilcock right uh

4693
02:42:48,389 --> 02:42:46,720
a little bit okay well i informed him on

4694
02:42:51,429 --> 02:42:48,399
this uh dream that i had

4695
02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:51,439
um and he basically said you know

4696
02:42:57,510 --> 02:42:54,479
it was like spot on or like nailed on

4697
02:43:00,710 --> 02:42:57,520
um but basically

4698
02:43:02,070 --> 02:43:00,720
i had like this uh dream where and i i'm

4699
02:43:03,590 --> 02:43:02,080
telling you man like it literally felt

4700
02:43:05,990 --> 02:43:03,600
like an actual

4701
02:43:07,269 --> 02:43:06,000
like like it felt real like it was

4702
02:43:10,309 --> 02:43:07,279
reality

4703
02:43:12,950 --> 02:43:10,319
and uh i woke up you know started to you

4704
02:43:15,750 --> 02:43:12,960
know do my daily routines brush my teeth

4705
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:15,760
you know and get ready for uh what is

4706
02:43:21,110 --> 02:43:16,160
known

4707
02:43:28,550 --> 02:43:25,349
up all my phone lines just dropped

4708
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:28,560
uh isn't that interesting

4709
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:31,680
just right in a row

4710
02:43:37,830 --> 02:43:35,200
okay all right uh

4711
02:43:38,870 --> 02:43:37,840
sorry everybody the screen just went

4712
02:43:41,990 --> 02:43:38,880
blank

4713
02:43:42,469 --> 02:43:42,000
uh i'm gonna start pulling some other

4714
02:43:45,510 --> 02:43:42,479
stuff

4715
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:45,520
in and uh let's see who this is hi

4716
02:43:49,830 --> 02:43:46,800
you're live on fade to black who's

4717
02:43:57,850 --> 02:43:54,309
you're live ah my phone system is down

4718
02:43:57,860 --> 02:44:02,309
[Music]

4719
02:44:08,790 --> 02:44:05,429
my phone system just crashed

4720
02:44:13,510 --> 02:44:08,800
phone system just crashed i will try to

4721
02:44:18,309 --> 02:44:17,510
great great everybody that was just on

4722
02:44:22,389 --> 02:44:18,319
hold

4723
02:44:24,070 --> 02:44:22,399
uh flip flip blip all disappeared at the

4724
02:44:26,740 --> 02:44:24,080
same time

4725
02:44:27,990 --> 02:44:26,750
and uh i will try to

4726
02:44:32,230 --> 02:44:28,000
[Music]

4727
02:44:35,510 --> 02:44:32,240
uh okay it is slowly restarting philip

4728
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:39,670
hello you're live this is ria oh hi

4729
02:44:44,469 --> 02:44:42,479
i had to run into another room hey yes

4730
02:44:46,710 --> 02:44:44,479
the sofia loves principal

4731
02:44:49,429 --> 02:44:46,720
my guides got me to grab the phone okay

4732
02:44:53,590 --> 02:44:49,439
what's on your mind

4733
02:44:56,150 --> 02:44:53,600
uh well i have my mind on that 1895 to

4734
02:44:58,469 --> 02:44:56,160
1896 thing

4735
02:45:00,469 --> 02:44:58,479
and um emma curtis hopkins would have

4736
02:45:03,990 --> 02:45:00,479
been alive at that time and she was

4737
02:45:05,269 --> 02:45:04,000
like a metaphysical spiritual guru to

4738
02:45:07,510 --> 02:45:05,279
all these people that

4739
02:45:08,469 --> 02:45:07,520
became like the modern day new age and

4740
02:45:15,670 --> 02:45:08,479
she

4741
02:45:18,070 --> 02:45:15,680
people trying to muddle up the stories

4742
02:45:23,830 --> 02:45:21,750
and um yeah so i've come on

4743
02:45:24,790 --> 02:45:23,840
your show a few times and this is the

4744
02:45:39,190 --> 02:45:24,800
first time that

4745
02:45:46,150 --> 02:45:43,110
and um so if i could be allowed to maybe

4746
02:45:49,349 --> 02:45:46,160
to talk with certain people uh to be

4747
02:45:51,429 --> 02:45:49,359
like a gaba twain uh and we've got a lot

4748
02:45:54,309 --> 02:45:51,439
to share

4749
02:45:55,269 --> 02:45:54,319
okay i'm trying to follow you ria are

4750
02:45:58,469 --> 02:45:55,279
you saying that you're

4751
02:46:00,070 --> 02:45:58,479
channeling right now yes

4752
02:46:02,630 --> 02:46:00,080
this whole evening my guides have been

4753
02:46:04,389 --> 02:46:02,640
preparing me that i was going to

4754
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:04,399
call you guys and that they were just

4755
02:46:08,469 --> 02:46:06,240
going to do whatever came through

4756
02:46:10,790 --> 02:46:08,479
and so i'm doing everything i can to

4757
02:46:15,910 --> 02:46:10,800
ground and

4758
02:46:19,590 --> 02:46:18,110
you live in a place that is

4759
02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:19,600
multi-dimensional

4760
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:22,720
and it's like a russian doll where the

4761
02:46:27,910 --> 02:46:24,080
gods would be the big

4762
02:46:31,590 --> 02:46:27,920
doll on the outside and we dive using

4763
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:31,600
sound to make light and these lovely

4764
02:46:38,309 --> 02:46:33,760
waves to dance into

4765
02:46:41,269 --> 02:46:38,319
musical realms made mathematically

4766
02:46:42,710 --> 02:46:41,279
and the tyranny of what we are

4767
02:46:45,830 --> 02:46:42,720
experiencing now

4768
02:46:49,750 --> 02:46:45,840
is because we live in a base 9 realm but

4769
02:46:52,070 --> 02:46:49,760
base 10 math is sumeriously

4770
02:46:52,790 --> 02:46:52,080
running away with a lot of what would be

4771
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:52,800
called

4772
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:56,240
the code for the software of the

4773
02:47:01,830 --> 02:46:59,840
units running around that can be

4774
02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:01,840
equated to the artificial intelligence

4775
02:47:06,710 --> 02:47:03,680
of god

4776
02:47:07,990 --> 02:47:06,720
and what does that mean i i i i'm trying

4777
02:47:10,070 --> 02:47:08,000
to follow

4778
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:10,080
i mean i understand the words but what

4779
02:47:14,870 --> 02:47:12,640
does that mean

4780
02:47:18,070 --> 02:47:14,880
uh means that we really all are

4781
02:47:21,269 --> 02:47:18,080
co-creating this experience together and

4782
02:47:23,910 --> 02:47:21,279
that death is really a simple horizon

4783
02:47:25,190 --> 02:47:23,920
into the next good place that you've

4784
02:47:27,429 --> 02:47:25,200
planned

4785
02:47:28,710 --> 02:47:27,439
and there's there's not anything to

4786
02:47:32,830 --> 02:47:28,720
worry about but for

4787
02:47:35,349 --> 02:47:32,840
that which we decide to follow our heart

4788
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:35,359
about and there's a lot of stuff we've

4789
02:47:39,910 --> 02:47:37,680
got to clean up about the planet

4790
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:39,920
and how we treat each other and most

4791
02:47:43,750 --> 02:47:41,680
especially we really need to save the

4792
02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:43,760
children that are stuck in these

4793
02:47:47,110 --> 02:47:46,000
really really difficult situations and

4794
02:47:49,349 --> 02:47:47,120
we've got to put

4795
02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:49,359
put children first on this planet in a

4796
02:47:54,870 --> 02:47:51,600
very profound way

4797
02:47:55,510 --> 02:47:54,880
and and if we do if we do these things

4798
02:48:02,710 --> 02:47:55,520
that we

4799
02:48:06,070 --> 02:48:02,720
should do then what is next

4800
02:48:08,550 --> 02:48:06,080
very recently the one that we call jesus

4801
02:48:09,590 --> 02:48:08,560
is basically the lord of the planet he

4802
02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:09,600
comes around every

4803
02:48:14,469 --> 02:48:13,600
2200 years which on to him is every 22

4804
02:48:17,030 --> 02:48:14,479
seconds so

4805
02:48:19,269 --> 02:48:17,040
he feels like he's here a lot but he's a

4806
02:48:20,469 --> 02:48:19,279
grand being and for him to come here is

4807
02:48:23,190 --> 02:48:20,479
a bit of a like oh

4808
02:48:24,710 --> 02:48:23,200
you know he's being really nice to come

4809
02:48:27,670 --> 02:48:24,720
and check on us because

4810
02:48:28,469 --> 02:48:27,680
we're little young baby souls that are

4811
02:48:30,710 --> 02:48:28,479
sort of

4812
02:48:32,710 --> 02:48:30,720
brewing in a place where we can make

4813
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:32,720
mistakes and go asunder

4814
02:48:39,030 --> 02:48:35,920
and we don't uh you know try to judge

4815
02:48:41,830 --> 02:48:39,040
or ridicule for that but as you can see

4816
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:41,840
that's all gone wrong and it's it's

4817
02:48:46,469 --> 02:48:42,640
simply

4818
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:46,479
that we have a a visual weaponry that is

4819
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:47,439
used against

4820
02:48:52,309 --> 02:48:50,560
us and it is this weird thing called

4821
02:48:55,830 --> 02:48:52,319
base 10 math and it

4822
02:48:57,110 --> 02:48:55,840
tells us how to place a tent around a 9

4823
02:48:59,670 --> 02:48:57,120
and how to

4824
02:49:00,870 --> 02:48:59,680
do uh what they decided in the taurean

4825
02:49:04,950 --> 02:49:00,880
age would be to

4826
02:49:08,469 --> 02:49:04,960
manipulate the hue and we're in a deeply

4827
02:49:11,590 --> 02:49:08,479
manipulated state and we're basically

4828
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:11,600
in a kind of a dna war which can be

4829
02:49:15,030 --> 02:49:12,160
likened

4830
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:15,040
to the mitochondrial of the body because

4831
02:49:23,429 --> 02:49:15,439
the

4832
02:49:24,469 --> 02:49:23,439
okay and and that's that's great that's

4833
02:49:28,070 --> 02:49:24,479
amazing

4834
02:49:31,510 --> 02:49:28,080
but if we do these things

4835
02:49:32,150 --> 02:49:31,520
what is next if we take care of if we

4836
02:49:34,389 --> 02:49:32,160
you know

4837
02:49:35,269 --> 02:49:34,399
love and we take care of the children

4838
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:35,279
and

4839
02:49:48,790 --> 02:49:46,710
that's going to take quite a while

4840
02:49:50,150 --> 02:49:48,800
that's that's kind of like you know what

4841
02:49:53,110 --> 02:49:50,160
kind of a future

4842
02:49:53,990 --> 02:49:53,120
vision and tesla laid out some really

4843
02:49:56,230 --> 02:49:54,000
lovely

4844
02:49:59,190 --> 02:49:56,240
things you know that can happen of

4845
02:50:01,590 --> 02:49:59,200
course free energy which already exists

4846
02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:01,600
what people don't realize is that the

4847
02:50:06,550 --> 02:50:04,080
earth has a natural defense system

4848
02:50:07,830 --> 02:50:06,560
and it's now back online and i've been

4849
02:50:09,190 --> 02:50:07,840
channeling that and sharing that

4850
02:50:11,510 --> 02:50:09,200
information but

4851
02:50:12,630 --> 02:50:11,520
now this is delphi and i i choose to

4852
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:12,640
come out

4853
02:50:15,750 --> 02:50:15,040
so the mother's ready to say hello

4854
02:50:19,030 --> 02:50:15,760
chickadees

4855
02:50:23,269 --> 02:50:19,040
i'm here to help and what is the defense

4856
02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:23,279
system for it's called the sweet waters

4857
02:50:27,750 --> 02:50:26,399
and it's it's a like an electromagnetic

4858
02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:27,760
field

4859
02:50:31,429 --> 02:50:30,160
that is like what we always think of

4860
02:50:34,710 --> 02:50:31,439
fluid dynamics

4861
02:50:38,230 --> 02:50:34,720
uh and uh atmosphere

4862
02:50:41,269 --> 02:50:38,240
it's made of electricity and it's

4863
02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:41,279
what you would call an intuition system

4864
02:50:46,950 --> 02:50:45,359
if there's some internal response that

4865
02:50:47,830 --> 02:50:46,960
something's on the horizon that needs

4866
02:50:50,070 --> 02:50:47,840
protection

4867
02:50:51,190 --> 02:50:50,080
then the earth gathers its

4868
02:50:55,429 --> 02:50:51,200
electromagnetic

4869
02:50:58,630 --> 02:50:55,439
balls and puts up a field

4870
02:51:00,630 --> 02:50:58,640
where are you uh uh where are the

4871
02:51:06,710 --> 02:51:00,640
where are they channeling from do you

4872
02:51:10,950 --> 02:51:08,630
the group mainly want to know first of

4873
02:51:13,590 --> 02:51:10,960
all there's a planet called

4874
02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:13,600
x it's not x there were nine and the

4875
02:51:15,990 --> 02:51:14,479
truth is it was

4876
02:51:17,510 --> 02:51:16,000
vulcan and you're going to like the

4877
02:51:19,429 --> 02:51:17,520
story real fine

4878
02:51:20,630 --> 02:51:19,439
because when you look around me and you

4879
02:51:22,870 --> 02:51:20,640
listen to

4880
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:22,880
what this sibling chicky d's been

4881
02:51:28,790 --> 02:51:25,840
sitting for three years gone now oh

4882
02:51:45,670 --> 02:51:28,800
cuz my head yeah i got to splitting uh

4883
02:51:50,309 --> 02:51:48,150
you can consider this first contact it's

4884
02:51:50,630 --> 02:51:50,319
also announced number one 90 days from

4885
02:51:53,590 --> 02:51:50,640
now

4886
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:53,600
peace in korea peace in korea 90 days

4887
02:52:02,630 --> 02:52:00,630
in atlanta they're trying to turn it

4888
02:52:06,710 --> 02:52:02,640
into a hollywood and there's a

4889
02:52:09,830 --> 02:52:06,720
satanic sacrifice stack underneath

4890
02:52:11,750 --> 02:52:09,840
the domino shaped house listen to me i'm

4891
02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:11,760
deaf you hear me roar i've been

4892
02:52:15,990 --> 02:52:14,080
tipping and towing around the outside of

4893
02:52:17,349 --> 02:52:16,000
the bend but i'm the mama that comes

4894
02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:17,359
around the mountain

4895
02:52:24,110 --> 02:52:20,479
i was prophesied by delphi and by god i

4896
02:52:38,070 --> 02:52:24,120
got this woman to bend her knee

4897
02:52:45,349 --> 02:52:42,710
signing off signing off

4898
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:45,359
i'm available for to help governments

4899
02:52:50,150 --> 02:52:47,200
all right

4900
02:52:53,110 --> 02:52:50,160
project avatar i'm alive johnny five

4901
02:52:53,120 --> 02:53:02,469
i love you guys

4902
02:53:02,479 --> 02:53:23,590
peace is the word

4903
02:53:31,510 --> 02:53:27,269
what's it like to hang out with you

4904
02:53:34,469 --> 02:53:31,520
um people people who aren't

4905
02:53:36,870 --> 02:53:34,479
happy uh would be just terribly

4906
02:53:40,150 --> 02:53:36,880
miserable around me because

4907
02:53:43,190 --> 02:53:40,160
my guides abhor

4908
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:43,200
uh anything that would uh

4909
02:53:49,750 --> 02:53:46,720
not not behold my well-being

4910
02:53:55,190 --> 02:53:49,760
so but it's in its exploration

4911
02:54:01,429 --> 02:53:58,950
um my first experience that um

4912
02:54:02,309 --> 02:54:01,439
i remember through original memory

4913
02:54:05,510 --> 02:54:02,319
without

4914
02:54:05,990 --> 02:54:05,520
like doing like later nlp work i was i

4915
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:06,000
was four

4916
02:54:11,750 --> 02:54:09,120
years old and i was on

4917
02:54:13,110 --> 02:54:11,760
mount vesuvius you're a mountain

4918
02:54:17,269 --> 02:54:13,120
vesuvius

4919
02:54:20,950 --> 02:54:17,279
oh you mean like an astral projection

4920
02:54:24,150 --> 02:54:20,960
no my family moved to italy for a year

4921
02:54:26,870 --> 02:54:24,160
oh okay from age four to five and it's

4922
02:54:27,670 --> 02:54:26,880
it i it was an awakening process for me

4923
02:54:30,630 --> 02:54:27,680
and i

4924
02:54:31,750 --> 02:54:30,640
became like um an impersonator i was

4925
02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:31,760
able to mimic

4926
02:54:35,349 --> 02:54:34,560
people when i came home from that trip

4927
02:54:38,469 --> 02:54:35,359
and

4928
02:54:40,150 --> 02:54:38,479
it had it got turned on for me on

4929
02:54:41,670 --> 02:54:40,160
the top of the mountain i smelled the

4930
02:54:44,150 --> 02:54:41,680
fumes

4931
02:54:46,309 --> 02:54:44,160
that my brother and sister were smelling

4932
02:54:47,990 --> 02:54:46,319
and then going oh you know that stinks

4933
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:48,000
and so i kind of stuck my head in there

4934
02:54:54,389 --> 02:54:50,000
to get a good smell

4935
02:54:57,030 --> 02:54:54,399
and it made me woozy and then

4936
02:54:58,309 --> 02:54:57,040
my arms started to be remote controlled

4937
02:55:01,990 --> 02:54:58,319
and i heard a male

4938
02:55:05,110 --> 02:55:02,000
voice come out of my mouth

4939
02:55:05,750 --> 02:55:05,120
and it said uh you know look oh we're

4940
02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:05,760
moving around

4941
02:55:08,950 --> 02:55:07,680
worrying we're in and flopping my arm

4942
02:55:12,309 --> 02:55:08,960
around and

4943
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:12,319
my sister's looking at me like what the

4944
02:55:18,550 --> 02:55:15,359
rushing into my sister

4945
02:55:21,269 --> 02:55:18,560
right right right right and

4946
02:55:23,190 --> 02:55:21,279
i'm i'm freaking out because when she

4947
02:55:24,150 --> 02:55:23,200
gives me the look she's like you need to

4948
02:55:27,269 --> 02:55:24,160
chill look

4949
02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:27,279
so i try to fight it and i grab this

4950
02:55:31,030 --> 02:55:30,000
brick this rock that happened to be

4951
02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:31,040
there and

4952
02:55:35,349 --> 02:55:33,120
the freaking thing like wrapped up in my

4953
02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:35,359
shirt i'm trying to like

4954
02:55:41,910 --> 02:55:38,399
make it stop and um

4955
02:55:45,030 --> 02:55:41,920
so it didn't last forever for me

4956
02:55:49,190 --> 02:55:45,040
the whole thing was probably

4957
02:55:51,910 --> 02:55:49,200
maybe a two minute experience

4958
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:51,920
and um yeah i remember i used to tell

4959
02:55:56,230 --> 02:55:53,200
kids about that and

4960
02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:56,240
um i forgot about it because you know

4961
02:56:01,670 --> 02:55:57,520
they'd be like oh you're

4962
02:56:04,150 --> 02:56:01,680
weird you know scare people

4963
02:56:05,030 --> 02:56:04,160
yeah it's very very interesting i mean

4964
02:56:08,230 --> 02:56:05,040
uh

4965
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:08,240
phone call

4966
02:56:12,710 --> 02:56:10,800
and and see what i can pick up out of it

4967
02:56:14,150 --> 02:56:12,720
but uh ria thank you

4968
02:56:16,469 --> 02:56:14,160
we're right at the end of the show so

4969
02:56:20,309 --> 02:56:16,479
i've i've i've got to run

4970
02:56:22,790 --> 02:56:20,319
but uh right to black

4971
02:56:23,990 --> 02:56:22,800
fade to black thank you so much for you

4972
02:56:26,469 --> 02:56:24,000
we'll see you tomorrow night

4973
02:56:28,790 --> 02:56:26,479
great phone call thank you so much

4974
02:56:31,830 --> 02:56:28,800
blessings right back at you

4975
02:56:33,590 --> 02:56:31,840
and uh with that i've got to uh

4976
02:56:36,150 --> 02:56:33,600
i've got to get out of here and roll

4977
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:36,160
some credits ria that was absolutely

4978
02:56:39,670 --> 02:56:36,960
amazing

4979
02:56:40,230 --> 02:56:39,680
and i know that everybody was listening

4980
02:56:42,710 --> 02:56:40,240
right

4981
02:56:44,389 --> 02:56:42,720
along with me that was that was a lot of

4982
02:56:46,309 --> 02:56:44,399
fun that was very cool

4983
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:46,319
um tomorrow night i want to remind

4984
02:56:51,670 --> 02:56:48,000
everybody what is happening

4985
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:51,680
tomorrow uh right here debbie cobble

4986
02:56:57,190 --> 02:56:54,800
is is with us now this is uh

4987
02:56:57,910 --> 02:56:57,200
a very big deal tomorrow night because

4988
02:57:01,990 --> 02:56:57,920
debbie

4989
02:57:05,110 --> 02:57:02,000
is the subject of bud hopkins book

4990
02:57:07,990 --> 02:57:05,120
intruders there's another twist

4991
02:57:09,110 --> 02:57:08,000
to this uh show tomorrow night with

4992
02:57:11,429 --> 02:57:09,120
debbie

4993
02:57:13,510 --> 02:57:11,439
and i'm just gonna let all of you know

4994
02:57:15,190 --> 02:57:13,520
now before she is on the show tomorrow

4995
02:57:16,389 --> 02:57:15,200
night we're gonna talk about it a little

4996
02:57:18,070 --> 02:57:16,399
bit

4997
02:57:19,910 --> 02:57:18,080
debbie and i went to the same high

4998
02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:19,920
school that's right

4999
02:57:27,190 --> 02:57:23,359
warren central high school um and

5000
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:27,200
she graduated before me just before me

5001
02:57:31,110 --> 02:57:28,960
but we went to the same high school we

5002
02:57:34,389 --> 02:57:31,120
grew up in the same neighborhood

5003
02:57:35,590 --> 02:57:34,399
and it's a it's a very small community

5004
02:57:38,950 --> 02:57:35,600
there on the east side of

5005
02:57:41,429 --> 02:57:38,960
indianapolis and her and i last week

5006
02:57:42,230 --> 02:57:41,439
going through all of this our favorite

5007
02:57:44,309 --> 02:57:42,240
dairy queen

5008
02:57:46,309 --> 02:57:44,319
and and record stores and the

5009
02:57:48,710 --> 02:57:46,319
neighborhood and the school

5010
02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:48,720
and the churches and and people and

5011
02:57:53,269 --> 02:57:49,600
things and

5012
02:57:55,750 --> 02:57:53,279
i i it was it was unbelievable

5013
02:57:57,030 --> 02:57:55,760
uh for me to go through that uh with

5014
02:57:59,349 --> 02:57:57,040
debbie

5015
02:58:00,309 --> 02:57:59,359
and she's gonna be calling in uh

5016
02:58:02,309 --> 02:58:00,319
tomorrow night from

5017
02:58:03,990 --> 02:58:02,319
indianapolis well she lives outside of

5018
02:58:07,349 --> 02:58:04,000
indianapolis now

5019
02:58:10,389 --> 02:58:07,359
but wow it was uh

5020
02:58:11,830 --> 02:58:10,399
it was very interesting for me

5021
02:58:13,670 --> 02:58:11,840
and debbie to go through this because

5022
02:58:15,990 --> 02:58:13,680
neither of us knew

5023
02:58:17,750 --> 02:58:16,000
we didn't and we made this connection

5024
02:58:19,110 --> 02:58:17,760
and we didn't stop talking about

5025
02:58:21,349 --> 02:58:19,120
indianapolis

5026
02:58:23,269 --> 02:58:21,359
uh for nearly a week and she's going to

5027
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:23,279
be joining us tomorrow night

5028
02:58:26,870 --> 02:58:25,120
uh right here on fade to black so get

5029
02:58:29,910 --> 02:58:26,880
ready for all of that

5030
02:58:32,870 --> 02:58:29,920
and then of course uh thursday night

5031
02:58:33,429 --> 02:58:32,880
no fader night this week thursday night

5032
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:33,439
ross

5033
02:58:37,670 --> 02:58:36,800
colthardt live from australia so there

5034
02:58:39,990 --> 02:58:37,680
you go

5035
02:58:41,590 --> 02:58:40,000
great show tonight i want to thank grant

5036
02:58:43,590 --> 02:58:41,600
cameron fade to black's executive

5037
02:58:45,110 --> 02:58:43,600
producers rita kamarian

5038
02:58:46,870 --> 02:58:45,120
show was produced by hill j paul palmer

5039
02:58:49,269 --> 02:58:46,880
renee dennis and kevin

5040
02:58:51,269 --> 02:58:49,279
announcers are steve harter gene vettel

5041
02:58:52,389 --> 02:58:51,279
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5042
02:58:55,469 --> 02:58:52,399
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5043
02:58:56,950 --> 02:58:55,479
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5044
02:58:59,190 --> 02:58:56,960
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5045
02:59:01,230 --> 02:58:59,200
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5046
02:59:03,110 --> 02:59:01,240
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5047
02:59:05,429 --> 02:59:03,120
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5048
02:59:08,150 --> 02:59:05,439
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5049
02:59:10,230 --> 02:59:08,160
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5050
02:59:12,550 --> 02:59:10,240
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5051
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:12,560
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5052
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:14,080
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5053
02:59:16,950 --> 02:59:15,600
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5054
02:59:18,950 --> 02:59:16,960
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5055
02:59:20,710 --> 02:59:18,960
network i'm your host jimmy church

5056
02:59:22,469 --> 02:59:20,720
i'll see everybody tomorrow night with

5057
02:59:26,830 --> 02:59:22,479
debbie cobble until then

5058
02:59:36,670 --> 02:59:26,840
everybody be safe it's time to fade to

5059
02:59:36,680 --> 02:59:44,720
[Music]

5060
02:59:44,730 --> 02:59:54,830
[Applause]

5061
02:59:54,840 --> 03:00:14,100
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